Madeleine McCann

You concoct this synthetic drama and invent this nonsense sence of urgency that simply didn't exist.

The parents were desperate to find her and you should read the nannies account of her and Kates desperate search on the night Madeline went missing. Imagine a mother having to look in bins. She might be a doctor but that must have hurt beyond imagining.

Here's the bit you clearly don't get:

Madeline dissapeared on 3rd of May 2007.

Eddie and keela searched the apartment on 3rd August.

By that time there was no sense of urgency; all the urgency was expended 3 months earlier and any notion that anyone official, especially the awful police, was actually looking for Madeline, was long gone! The Police were in full pin it on the parents mode by that time. The McCanns would have been fully aware of what the police were doing and lawyering up was an absolute necessity and not the least bit suspicious.

Lots of Portuguese SAR and sniffer dogs were brought in and made extensive searches when it actually made sense to use them, which is right after Madeline went missing and scent and trails would be fresh. There is even an account of one of those dogs finding a scent trail and following it to another apartment, but that didn't pan out.

You still can't explain why the McCann's first instinct was to try to run from the findings of the highly trained dogs and their vastly experienced handler. They were brought over from Britain by the way so not a local conspiracy like you're trying to paint.

This could have been a big break in the case, a clue to what really happened. The McCann's didn't consider that for a second. They couldn't have known that the dogs were wrong or right or anything. So to instantly try to dismiss it and get their highly paid team after it stinks. It's not the reaction of innocent people.

The alert didn't turn anything conclusive up. The PJ were apparently trying to use this alert to build a case against the McCanns themselves, among other things which turned out to be similarly non starters. It was natural for the McCanns to discredit this for two reasons - the investigation couldn't move forward very well if this was the leading theory with the PJ team, and public goodwill, support and aid would have been sorely compromised if tabloids had been allowed to continue with their headlines connecting the McCanns to their daughter's disappearance. It is very important in investigations to eliminate certain theories in order to narrow down the range of possibilities.

Well done inspector Clouseau, I can see you have put a lot of thought into this.

No way the parents could know whether the dogs were right or wrong to positively identify their hire car as having had a dead body in it. I can understand forgetting something like that, easy to do.

I once found a dead elephant in the boot of my Civic I had completely forgotten about, so can relate.

Isn't there any rule against this type of trolling anymore?

But how did they know an abductor hadn't killed her in the apartment? How did they not even consider that?

4 months after Madeleine went missing both parents were made 'arguidos' and flew back to England. 10 months later the arguido status was lifted.

As arguidos it would have been stupid to remain in Portugal. The local police would have made a big media show of the English couple being arrested. Much like the Irish police did with Ian Bailey and Jules Thomas ( that other thread you're trolling on)

My response was nothing to do with the dogs, just this;" The McCann's booked a flight out of there......"

Poining out it was 4 months after Madeleine went missing.

Eh, wouldn't that mean the abductor had to be in the apartment with a dead body for a number of hours for there to be any traces left for the dogs to detect? That never happened.

The Portuguese police were obviously trying to stitch up the parents because they had zero other leads and wanted the whole media circus to end.

They appear to have accepted this, otherwise why did they apologise for how the parents were treated?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67229219

I know it was nothing to do with the dogs. So not sure why you quoted my post.

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

The theory, such as it is, could only point to the McCanns as it would be close to an impossibility for a 3rd party to be involved if her body was actually in the apartment for several hours.

You know that thing - we've all done it at some stage, I'm sure - where you kill your child by giving them Calpol and then stick their body behind a settee or in a press, and then raise the alarm about them being missing but a few hours later. The perfect crime, you'll all agree. People look behind couches for coins and socks. Not for dead children. No way that little avenue would have been investigated or stumbled upon in the frantic searching which followed the alarm being raised about her disappearance.

Why would I answer yours? It has nothing to do with what I've been discussing. I've said already, the dogs being wrong or right is irrelevant to what way the McCann's and their team reacted to it.

I never said the dogs or their handler were trying to stitch them up. I think the Portuguese police were and that's why the parents returned to the UK.

They were central to the McCanns' reaction. They pointed the finger at the McCanns after the alerts and the McCanns then got lawyers to help them clear their name. That is direct cause and effect.

Sniffer dogs are not evidence in and of themselves. They can point to places where evidence may be collected or samples tested, but if that process yields nothing, the investigation moves on.