AMOC/Atlantic Ocean circulation is nearing devastating tipping point - New Study

Probably none, barring an amazing breakthrough in gerontology to extend lifespans. From AMOC shutting down to the end of summers seems to take around 400 years. However there have been some suggestions glacial period onsets can happen in less than a decade, but I seem to recall there was some push-back against that claim.

Is it wrong that, notwithstanding the existential risk this poses to humankind, my big take-away is that it might snow in Ireland? Snow, yay!

A comment on fb in reply to an Irish article on climate change which said Jan 2024 was the warmest on record for the globe as a whole. These are the kind of idiots we are dealing with. The scientists and models and facts and figures etc are all wrong, her cat knows the score.

I’m remember seeing a met office image of the impacts if it collapsed. I think(could be wrong) the far north of Ireland was on average 5/6c colder and 4/5c elsewhere. I’ll take a look for it later. Would be insane if it ever came to pass.

I'm hoping that someday in the future, Eamon Ryans descendents decide to take a bike tour of Connemara, and that they get eaten by the Polar bears.

If people lived for 300 years they might actually care about the future and have some kind of long term vision.

The culture is so focussed on self and short term gain that anything outside of this window is irrelevant and not valued.

So, a person who plants a native wood is seen as a crazy person, whereas someone who makes a lot of money reviewing mobile phones on YouTube is seen as some kind of Messiah.

So that explains the funny looks. I thought it was just my dress sense.

mate you'd go nuts if you read twitter and facebook comments all day. take solace in the fact that smart, busy people out there, don't have time to be commenting on facebook articles, it's mostly just numbskulls.

I read a little more about this study earlier today but sadly it’s behind a paywall now. It was the most detailed model run so far looking in to this. Craziest aspect is London average temperature would drop by 10c, Bergen in Norway 15c.

It was the first study that had a gradual release of freshwater that lead to a shutdown compared to previous ones that had all the freshwater released at once. Still the gradual release of freshwater modelled exceeds the current rate of melting in Greenland. They’re making some adjustments and going to run it again.

Oh I think I understand climate science fairly well. It's about distortion of truth and making observational data fit a narrative. A good example would be the curent ludicrous claim that the current slowing and possible tipping of the AMOC is due to anthropogenic climate change, despite the AMOC likely slowing for at least the last thousand years, possibly 2.

If I were to construct a climate hysteria intelligence test, I'd include the above graph - all the lurid green bits are my additions and I have erased the axies labels for fun. The question is: what would you think would be the most likely direction the green line on the right will follow next, if time is measured from left to right?

A) Continue upwards on it's current trajectory

B) Continue horizontally to the right

C) Change direction and descend steeply at -40 -- -60°

You believe in climate science, so the obvious answer is A, right?

Another question based on the same graph:

If the green dots represent AMOC shutdown events, is the one on the right:

A) Completely unexpected, time to panic

B) I'm colour blind, are you sure it's green

C) To be expected, no reason to panic (yet)

You of course will pick A, which is exactly what the climate scientists have picked also, so at least you are in good company.

I think the banning of CFC's may well have done the job and prevented an increase in the hole in the ozone layer. That could be why it didn't get worse, so since something drastic was done about it, scepticism of the original warnings is probably misplaced.