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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,022 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Swift is such a mainstream megastar that her fandom is surely going to overlap with Trump voters and a certain amount of MAGA maniacs. I would have to think her management has crunched the numbers on what a potential endorsement of Biden or criticism of Trump would mean for her music, merch and tour revenue.

    It may be correct to say that Swift is more popular, but MAGA hats are nuts. If Trump views her as a genuine threat to his campaign, he'll pull no punches in attempting to make her life a complete misery. He has no scruples.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Raysin


    You'd have to assume she's aware of the risks, which makes her braver than almost the entirety of the GOP.

    He'd turn the dogs on her without a second thought in plain sight of the world, and his defenders will still explain how he didn't mean that and he's misunderstood. The yearning for a daddy dictator to tell people what to think is very strong in the IQ deficient MAGA population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Swift has a huge amount of influence in the US at the moment. Was reading earlier that the NFL have a dollar figure for her value to the sport so far from when she turns up at her boyfriends football games. And it's north of $300 million. They reckon 500,000 young women registered to vote after she put a call out. Trump might want to go after her, but he'd be an idiot ( I know, I know) as she'd shred him to pieces. She's popular, talented, rich, politically savvy and ruthless. He'd have a better chance of ousting the Ayatollah of Iran than dethroning the current queen of pop.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    But what can he do to her?

    Any other opponents of his have been political and trying to take over the GQP and he's got control there with the MAGA faithful. But they are insignificant as far as Taylor Swift selling pop songs is concerned. He has no control or influence over pop music or what teenage girls are interested in.

    He could call her names on Xwitter, but that's about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭scottser


    'I'm smart, you're dumb. I'm big, you're little. I'm right, you're wrong.'

    Sounds about right



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    This rant was pretty epic (even shares why I HATE football - EIGHTEEN MINUTES in 3.5 HOURS. Brainrot)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    Stochastic terrorism, you could see the orange blob having one of his speeches and saying "she's very nasty to me... nasty woman..., and I was nice, I was too nice, many people said to me Mr President you're too nice to her, who knows, maybe something bad will happen to her" and one of his derranged cult followers will act on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump finally shows his open hands almost 2 weeks after he exhibited sores thought to be neurosyphilis yeah that will show em 🤣




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The brain rot continues to rot brains. Alina Habba now being accused by MAGAts of being a deep state plant to help destroy Trump.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,926 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    If Trump takes aim at Taylor Swift...that will show how mentally weak he is, because let's face it, she is a pop-star, she legit poses no threat at all.

    His ego must REALLY be fragile, I knew it was bad with how he reacts to the like of Nikki Haley...but Taylor Swift? Loser.

    Bidens camp will jump at this, just watch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Has Taylor Swift actually said or really become involved in this? I have heard a lot of nonsense about her but don’t think I’ve actually heard anything political she’s said. This once again feels like one of conservative America’s attacks on nothing like their culture war rubbish.

    admittedly I live in a Taylor swift free world and don’t think I could pick her out of a line up of similarly looking women so could have missed a lot.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The absolute refusal by ANY of them to accept responsibility for the outcomes of their actions is incredible.

    It's always a plot or a conspiracy or the "deep state" , it's never "We f*cked up and did a stupid/bad thing"



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    She has publicly supported a more local level democrat in an election, but mostly just saying to her fans to vote, for anybody, is enough to get GQP upset as they rely on people not voting.



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,913 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    it amounts to her having endorsed Biden in 2020.

    thats pretty much it

    she does advocate for getting registered to vote, and its estimated shes encouraged about 500,000 new registrations


    the MAGAs are petrified of her influence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/30/taylor-swift-maga-biden-trump-2024

    In a nutshell, she supported two Dem candidates in the mid-terms, and encouraged people to vote (or register to vote) without actually giving her endorsement. That said, she's said she regrets not speaking out against Trump in the 2016 election, her boyfriend appeared in a Covid Vaccine ad encouraging people to get the vaccine, and now her boyfriend, Travis Kelce, is on one of the teams in the Superbowl (which means the camera has kept cutting to her in the spectators box for family/friends in NFL games that she's been at), so now the conspiracy is that if her boyfriend's team wins the Superbowl, they'll both endorse Biden and that's somehow a big conspiracy engineered by Biden to beat Trump, because Kelce will wrap up large sections of the NFL audience and Swift will wrap up sections of the youth/female audience.

    Because anyone voicing their support of Trump is a free-speech patriot, but anyone voicing their support of Biden is a deep-state psy-op conspiracy to steal the country and hurt Trump who is just Jesus Incarnate.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Exactly - Young people like Taylor Swift , Young People don't typically vote for the GOP so Taylor Swift must be stopped!!!!

    The conversations they have must be mind boggling.

    GOP Pollster :- Voters Under 30 really don't like our policies , we have to do something to fix that or we're going to have a real problem in future.

    GOP Leaders :- Have we tried telling them that they are stupid and that their heroes are not to be trusted and are part of a deep state conspiracy?

    GOP Pollster :- I don't think that will work , have we thought about looking at our policies and updating them to make them more palatable to more voters?

    GOP Leaders :- No , lets' just call them really stupid , make voting really hard and gerrymander the hell out of all the districts so we can isolate all these "young" voters into as few districts as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Cheers all, all seems a bit over the top but not unexpected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ultimately they're just mad the Dems have Taylor Swift and all the GOP has is Kid Rock. Hell half the GOP can't even play songs at their rallies without the artists publicly saying "Stop playing our songs!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    She's done almost nothing, other than encourage people to register to vote. That's the best bit! They're losing their minds (what little remained of them after years of exposure to Fox News) over almost nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,646 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    Ted Nugent, Jon Voight, Kevin Sorbo, James Woods, Kanye West.

    All of them either now well-established mentally conspiracy theory nuts or underage girl stalkers. He attracts a type alright.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    And Kelsey Grammar. That one always hurts as I adore Cheers and Frasier (not the reboot).

    I'm on mobile so I don't think I can link YouTube videos. I recommend searching for "An American Carol".

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh Good Lord....

    (I see on Wikipedia it was called "Big Fat Important Movie" internationally)

    I actually thought you were referring to this clip (which I thought may have been from a play or piece called An American Carol). This is the only reason I ever search for Kelsey Grammer on Youtube.




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The GOP and FOx are basically personifying the No, it's the children who are wrong Simpsons meme, only broadly antagonistic and embittered that their politics aren't remotely palatable with young people. Or indeed that the young people want to vote at all - always worth pointing out that the public trend liberal, especially as you focus on younger voters vs. older (ie, the Fox watching demographic), and there's only one of the two parties with an outsized effort to block or make harder teh act of voting.

    Of course, the rank hypocrisy that the GOP are happy to have Kid Rock wax lyrical about Trump and all things right-wing is lost on them. Presumably it's just unspoken jealousy that the best the American Right can manage are has-beens nobodies and outright conspiracy nuts.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,659 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I was referring to the trailer. Thought it was worth a watch for a look at what gets American conservatives going.

    Thanks for digging that up. I hadn't seen the second clip. Thanks for that.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I wish I hadn't. I don't know if my Youtube recommendations will ever recover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭mikefromcork


    If Nikki Haley started sneakily using the word tiny with reference to him in her speeches I honestly think that would trigger the end of this shitshow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,041 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Sweet jesus! They have RINO judges in the UK????????

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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