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Room to Improve (v2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Difficult to age them,her mother seemed quite young, anyone know their age approximately?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,635 ✭✭✭fliball123


    Am I going nuts 800k is what this build cost 800k twice what the original house is worth, honestly can anyone justify that cost for what was given in return, absolutely mental money mental.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,098 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    Only one observation from the neighbour next door it seems;




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,622 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Wife graduated from UCD in 93 so she is prob 53-54.

    Husband looks late fifties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    I though he mentioned working in the 1980's so in his 60's?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Yes but it wouldn't have the emotional connection.

    The house also looked like it hadn't been touched in years. So just general upgrading would cost a pretty penny.



  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surgeons don't deal with red herrings. This lady was very capable of communicating her needs to Bannon without playing games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly




  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope, he mentioned starting work as a messenger boy so he may well have left school early. If he left school at 17 in 82, he'd still be in his late fifties now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    I know but you need to be practical about the emotional connection. The new building bears zero resemblance to their old home anyway.


    If they bought a house in similar condition requiring upgrading but on a corner site the options and ultimately their levels of comfort and luxury would be so much better.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Why do they need to be practical?

    They can afford it and it's what they want.

    Everyone spends their money the way they see fit.

    For example, at one point my brother's car loan was more than my mortgage...to me that was crazy, but he does alot of driving and wanted comfort, he also wanted that particular brand....he could afford it....while I was rattling around in my lil fiesta 😂 our priorities were different, but we'd still end up in the same destination at the same time.(once speed limits were kept)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,032 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Its big money but its literally why "location, location, location" is so important.

    They know what they are getting, and essentially the full "service history" of the house.

    They loved the location, for practical purposes, there's a massive "useable" green area in the middle of the eestate (these are damn near impossible to find in newer and evey older estates) - they had plenty family links and I suppose most importantly for them - they could afford it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Thanks for that. I figured someone would know or find the area.

    The respondent got an architects opinion, then just made onservations. Maybe the architect told them it was pointless to object.

    A precedent has been set now for others to do this in the immediate area.

    I would do something like this, but perhaps keep the area open, car port style. The comments on how it looks don't dispell from what it did for /adds to the living space. Outside is not that important to the utility value of the interior.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,498 ✭✭✭✭event


    You think this woman lied on national television about her mother so Dermot wouldnt use the space for something else?

    I dont think they said the mother was in bad health. Her father is and when he dies, her mother may want to live with them. Nothing got to do with health on the mothers side, but perhaps loneliness or peace of mind. Maybe the mother suffers from depression and she is worried about her being on her own. This way she would live with one of her daughters and be beside the other.

    I get that the regular posters in here like to think of themselves as experts in building, architecture and planning when they probably couldnt build a Lego set but I think a post like that is in very poor taste tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    As a matter of interest, if this was her parents house why did they move out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,645 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I'm assuming one-off changes to the streetscape like this would be granted on some kind of "enhances the architectural integrity of the street yada yada" type of basis/clause.

    I wouldn't be as hopeful for your car port getting permission unless you had half a million and a top architects firm behind you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I think it was the granny's house.

    So I presume, her parents bought down the road from the granny.

    Granny died and house sold.

    Sister then bought down the road from her mother.

    Granny's house came up for sale again....I presume they knew the owners and they agreed once she matched the first offer they'd sell to her.

    She bought in early 2000's so before the whole craziness that was the tiger!

    I could be wrong but I think that's how it played out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Don't know about that Renko. Spoken to a couple on the last few years and they could be fairly hard to nail down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Niall_76


    I thought the front looked terrible. But from memory their 2 houses weren’t the same as the ones beside them and also Dermot mentioned bringing the extension out to the same level as the neighbour’s place so they might be two reasons planning was granted for it?



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    Here's what the Planners thought of the front extension...


    "The proposed development of a first storey extension with gable roof above the existing side extension would generally respect the pattern of development in the area in terms of the existing building lines, roof profiles and urban form of the street. On this basis, it is considered that it would make a positive contribution to the existing streetscape."



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    Also for anyone concerned about Granny's access to a downstairs bathroom.. like like it was nicely accounted for in the plans at least..


    Screenshot_20240129_224623_Drive.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭gipi


    Did it have a gable roof? I thought it was flat on the 2nd floor?

    And they removed the existing single floor extension rather than extending upwards?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    I think the roof detail wasn't clear from the camera angles, but it looked like it had a slightly recessed roof to avoid an overhang.. so not flat..


    Screenshot_20240129_225417_Drive.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,316 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Would be good to see the wider area.

    While I think it looked unresolved I’ have no love for the existing architecture. That style of house is so unoriginal and bland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭gipi


    Thanks @spockety, all I could see was a box attached to the side of the house!



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    Also on the costs.. I was stunned.. but from the plans it looks like a demolition of 46 sq metres, complete retrofit of 76 sq metres (including a new roof), plus 114 sq metres of new build for a combined total 190 sq metres..

    So 600k is explainable.. everyone can have their own opinion on whether you'd invest that in that project in that location.



  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you're talking about medical judgements, that's an entirely different story. She didn't get where she is today in a male dominated sector by faffing around with red herrings when she needs someone to do something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭GolfPar


    Final granting of planning was only at the start of August last year. Tight schedule to get it all turned around so quickly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭touts


    Not very. We had a scene where the house was gutted, lots of decisions were not being made and the builder was complaining that he had an impossible amount of work to do in 7 weeks. A minute later Dermot was walking up the street to the finished house. Something happened that meant they decided to cut possibly the most interesting part of the build.



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