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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    Absolute madness. I've watched the replays repeatedly and I can't see what mitigation they could have found.

    There was zero obstruction of his view, Bealham didn't move or roll into the way, and he wasn't knocked off balance by another player at the ruck.

    It totally undermines any claims about player welfare



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    The referee sent Josh Caulfield off for intentionally stamping on Finlay's head. Caulfield didn't accept the charge of "stamping" and the disciplinary committee agreed with him so the red card was overturned. He was knocked off balance and his foot came down in exactly the wrong place. Accidents happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭GBXI


    How was he knocked off balance? He should face a ban for the lack of personal responsibility. It was like watching a cow hurdle a fence.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    I should have chosen a better word than "knocked". He's trying to step over Finlay while changing direction to enter the ruck legally with another team mate about to bind onto him. It was clumsy and resulted in an accidental clash with Finlay's head. Probably a yellow for failure in duty of care but definitely not a red for the intentional act of stamping.

    My final comment on the topic so we can just agree to disagree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    "Knocked off balance" is very very soft there.

    There was the lightest of touches by his teammate. His upper body doesn't move or change direction at all.

    The same thing is being said in the munster thread about the knee that Aherne got. "It may not have been intentional, but it would have looked the same if it was".

    Or else treat it like the Ralston hit on JOD. It's either an intentional attempt to injure a guy or he arrived with no control and the result was an injury.

    I don't think it's dramatic to say that Bealham could have lost an eye there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Game against Section Paloise on Sunday April 7th, kick off 4.30 (3.30 Irish time).

    https://www.epcrugby.com/challenge-cup/matches/276338/news



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭CuriousCucumber


    Thought it was 18:30 (local)/17:30 (Irish Time)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Not according to the EPCR link above which should be definitive, but now I see that in the tweet that EPCR published it gives a later kick off time for for Pau v Connacht and Sharks v Zebre. I've written to them to ask for clarification.

    Post edited by Zeugnis on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Leinster are playing two friendlies during February against Bath and Saracens. Munster are playing Crusaders and Harlequins. But I haven't heard about us having any additional fixtures - is that correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    There's an article in the Independent saying Munster are after Kilgallen. Could be just agent shithousery.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    They can't outbid. Kilgallen would have to decide that he wanted to leave and refuse to extend his contract, a la Henshaw. It would be extremely disappointing if he was to do so, after having gone through our academy and been given so many opportunities as a senior player. Hopefully it's not true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Not just the academy, he played u19 for us while still in school too. Would be a big blow to lose him, but it's very understandable why other provinces would be interested. If I were Leinster I'd be taking a serious look at either him or Bolton.



  • Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Connacht have done an amazing job in development and scouting. Both from outside ireland, from leinster and their own. Like the raw numbers aren’t crazy from connacht, but the Murray brothers, Barrett, Gavin, Jennings, Forde, Farthing.. even guys like Walsh and O Connell who played u18 clubs this year. Its extremely impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    I thought he was from Kildare and went to Roscrea - was he already in the Academy when he played u19 or how did it happen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Nah, been whispers of it for a couple of weeks now.

    Munster need back three depth and I'd imagine he very much fits the mould for them in terms of physical presence. Tall guy with good pace....he'd suit there attacking structure very well.

    He has only really got a good run this season....was he previously injured a lot?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭macslash


    Would be seriously disappointing to lose him. Hopefully he stays. Has been with us a good while so it would hurt that bit more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,317 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Very tough on Connacht if Kilgallen leaves. Came through the academy. Finally broke through onto the first team this season. Started scoring tries. Got injured. And now he might be off.

    Would mean they would have to invest in the back three next season. Cordero will be back hopefully but TOH isn’t getting any younger. Not sure what Porch’s contract situation is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭kita99


    I don't worry so much. In Connacht, there are many good back 3 players as him. Hansen, Ralston, Bolton, Porch, Smith, McNulty who was impressive at the game against Bristol, Cordero, Jennings, Mullins (after Olympics), Gavin (He can play as winger.). And O'Connor may makeover. Connacht should seek IQ players ( any positions) around the world like Hansen or Bolton. Now the success story of Hansen is known by all rugby societies in the world. From now, volunteers will continue to increase. Galway is one of the world -class excellent city in the world so talented rough players will want to come here. But if it is true,Connacht must harsh correspondence against him and should give some chancesfor young players.



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    Perhaps Kilgallen thinks that Connacht have placed too much priority on overseas players (Mack, Bolton, Ralston, Porch, Cordero, MacNamara) and converting sevens players rather than developing back three players who've come through our academy. We've been using an out half as back three cover regularly. He's had game time on the wing but with a fully fit squad I see the coaches rotating him through lesser league games.

    Cordero was already a top class international when we signed him but otherwise everyone including Mack have been playing some careful moneyball with large player numbers.

    If Graham Rowntree or Mike Prendergast convinced me that that my direct style of wing play was in his plans - and it seems to be - I'd probably be very tempted too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭CuriousCucumber


    So basically there's one article in the Irish Independent.

    Not exactly much to get worked up about yet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Would be very disappointed if Kilgallen goes to Munster. I think himself and Bolton Would have been pretty much nailed on first choices when fit and Mack was away.

    Saying that the likes of Smith and Ralston have looked decent in patches and theres Gavin, Chay Mullins, Jennings, Josh O’Connor and Mallon all in the academy.



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    Ralston has actually started eight games on the wing this season. Until his yellow card v. Munster he'd played every minute of the season. The coaching team were clearly eager to have him on the pitch.

    I definitely hope this is all just contract season noise and he will sign a new deal.



  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Agustin Attractive Trash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭lostboy75


    Agreed, it didn't make much sense. But I think we can all agree it wasn't intentional, but the vast majority of Reds aren't either, that's not the point.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Agustin Attractive Trash


    Yeah, I don't think it was intentional but it was absolutely reckless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    A lot of 7's players. Would like to see Jennings kick on at full back but as things stand I can see TOH given another extension as there is nobody filling that gap at present. Indeed it's much the opposite where the fullback position seems to be a nightmare position which is not good and says nothing much good about the coaching staff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Would love to see Jennings get game time at 15. No real need to give TOH an extension. Cordero, Jennings and Porch all under contract next season from what I can tell.

    You also have Nicholson and West in the academy. Looks like West is being converted to a fullback, lining out for Buccs there and played for that Irish U23 team against Italy at 15.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    O'Halloran is still comfortably our best fullback. We haven't really managed the succession planning particularly well imo. Jennings played a good bit of 15 in the AIL at the start of last season but was never tried at senior level. McNulty was given a couple of opportunities but never consistently enough to establish any form, and now appears to be on the way out. Smith given one game at 15 before being moved to the wing. McNamara was on the bench for the first two games of the season before being banished to the AIL. Porch and Hansen occasionally play fullback but appear to be very much seen as wingers.

    I read somewhere that Harry West is going to be focusing on sevens for the Olympics but can't find a source on that now.

    On another note, Belfast Telegraph are reporting that Leinster have tried and failed to sign Tom O'Toole. Hopefully they don't come knocking for Jack Aungier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭kita99


    I'm pleased to look at above post that suggest West is healthy. I'm Convinced that he is a better runner (especially 'cut in sharply') than younger Prendergast. And He is also good kicker (not as much as Prendergast). Maybe he can fit at 10 and 15.It is very regrttably that Hanrahan looks getting Knee injury at almost every game, so Connacht should try some young players at his position instead him.

    I think that Harry West can't fit to 7's because he is small for current 7's games. Did you look at Argentina7's team at Perth? They were all giants and not only strong but also fast. In Ireland 7's team, maybe Mullins was tallest one, and he worked as jumper, but he seemed not enough at the height. Ireland7's team needs a few jumpers taller than him like Gavin. (He looks strong at the break down.)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    ain't that the truth. In all honesty Porch has shown little aptitude at full back and neither has Mack. Jennings hasn't had much of an opportunity and Cordero is a complete unknown. Indeed with TOH calling the shots the team seems to function a lot better so I doubt he will be discarded just yet

    Post edited by ElisaAtWar on


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