Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

Unlike most of Europe, there are virtually no seaside cafes in Dun Laoghaire - if you're in French towns by the sea, they're thronged with excellent seafood cafes.

I think you need your own thread so that we can focus on what's not on your mind.

Agreed.

All the villages that have been made one way to traffic are much more pleasant to visit and sit out in.

The street furniture is a great thing and its more enjoyable to use when cars arent constantly whizzing up and down in front of you.

Oh no, it's a

Probably more dangerous. Young kids, old people, hard of hearing etc running out of Penney’s. Not expecting traffic getting hit by a bus.

also greatly takes away of the benefits of a pedestrian’ area. No buakers, stalls on the street etv

it’d be like that market in Asia with the train going through it

in summary. It would be half arsed and no good

Yes, it would.

You would be removing public transport service from one of the busiest bus stops in the heart of the town, that serves the Bloomfields centre and St Michael's Hospital, which itself provides acute inpatient and outpatients services for diseases most prevalent in the geriatric cohort, and add a walk of between 300 and 500 metres for those service users to access the public transport that they currently do.

Some of you, above, are trying to make a case for hazards that would be no different to what has existed on that street for the last 23 years, and for which the streetscape was specifically designed and independently safety audited.

In point of fact, reducing traffic to public transport and deliveries only, will reduce the frequency of passing vehicles considerably.

And if its buskers and stalls you want, you have a sun-drenched, brand new, multi-million Euro square there for the purpose.

If I may draw your attention to the County Council's own bumf on the project, its so glowing that they're practically talking themselves out of their own Living Streets expansion!

But it boils down to this, if the push to take the buses off George's Street persists, there is no project to save. Its gone, undone by a vote of the Council members which will be approximately 3:1 against.

No Ted, I did not.

Correct me if I'm wrong but access to St Michaels, for the aged and infirm is constantly brought up as a reason not to pedestrianise Lr. Georges st? The additional distance of 300m from the nearest bus stop seems to be the deal breaker for many on this thread and the reason why the initiative should be scrapped?

It's my understanding that the street outside the hospital is not to be pedestrianised and if the additional distance proves to be too much for the aged, infirm and disabled, could St Michaels simply do away with parking in front of the hospital and allow buses to turn there? Problem solved??

Simples?????

When is the final vote do we know?

Is it possible to accomodate a bus stop closer to the hospital but still pedestrianise the rest of the street, southbound from the hospital?

It seems fron your extract that the council want to bring some of that seaside footfall into the town, which makes perfect sense.

But I would say Georges St needs a few better tenants as well as attractive outdoor pedestrian space to achieve that.

It does always amaze me how many folks are down by the sea/peoples park on a sunday yet barely anyone goes up to Georges St/Shopping centres.

And why do so many of the shops close on a sunday in DL...seems crazy with the amount of potential customers.

I don't know Maisie, but you seem to be conflating a number of unrelated issues together and mixing with a fair bit of whataboutery. I mean, what do manhole covers in Carysfort Ave have to do with access to a hospital?

BTW, how did you get on with your flights over the weekend? Didn't get caught up with any of the storms?

No it’s not ideal for skateboards. The surface has to much friction