Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

No mention of Ukraine, funny that

You're missing the third possibility of neither winning. The elections not for another 11 months, and we're talking about a 77 year old vs an 81 year old, and that's not even covering the possibility of Trump's legal problems resulting in a different GOP candidate

Biden is not a normal 81 year old you see in Tesco. The guy is arguably the most important person in the world so has the top doctors and is managed very carefully. US politics is full of people even older then him who are in top positions.

I don't think Trump's legal issues matter when it comes to the primary unfortunately, although yes it is clearly going to be an issue for the general depending on the outcomes.

I doubt they would let you lay more than a tenner

No ethical prosecutor will agree to take a case against any of Trump's enemies - and I can't envisage there being many lawyers willing to do it. Besides, a federal judge would dismiss such a case as an abuse of process.

A collaboration between NPR and Iowa Public Radio covering the GOP Iowa caucus put the vote results as Trump 51% [56,260] DeSantis 21.2% [23,420] Haley 19.1% [21,085] Ramaswamy 7.7% [8449] and others 1% [1084].

If one gauges the transfer of support from the supporters of those ex-candidates as going to DeSantis or Haley and NOT Trump in the caucus still to be held in the other states then he may not have such a plain sailing in the future. Linking the caucus result to his decision not to attend at the GOP debates in Iowa [for his own reasons] and transposing the result to the future state caucus elsewhere may be conjecture but it depends on voter loyalty. Holding one's own events and facing down one's opponents from a distance without a debate works OK when the event is stocked from one's fanbase and you're sure of the applause but is no contest to an all candidates event.

I'm not sure if telling the voters to go to the caucus and vote for him even if they died [the weather] in doing so was tongue-in-cheek or just his way of speaking. It would have a contrary effect on me, either in attending to support him as a candidate or to give my vote to another out of anger.

There's honestly few worse things out there in 2024 than a US MAGA Republican. I firmly believe that.

Vivek supporters will go to Trump undoubtably, Christie I suppose Haley but that's nowhere enough. Ron will hang about for a while and even if he were to drop out tomorrow his supporters 2nd choice in polling is always Trump, their is a lot of differences between him and Haley.

I don't see what states Trump loses bar maybe New Hampshire and even then if Haley wins, will it be enough to propel her to win her home state where she is down 30 or so points ? Unlikely. The thing with Haley is you look at her favorable numbers with GOP numbers and they are pretty crap, she was always a poor choice for pissed of donors to lump on to beat Trump.

2 things can stop Trump getting the nomination, death and maybe been thrown into jail, but even the latter would probably not be enough.

So basically Ron and Nikki have to hope he dies .😕

Yeah could see Nikki getting out if New Hampshire is not close because a lot of eggs in that basket and does she really want to be clobbered in her home state? Lose in NH and endorse Trump and hope for VP would probably be her best play.

Florida is in March so Ron has a little more time to hope for divine intervention, but its not exactly a viable strategy to sell to donors. He like Nikki won't want the stench of getting stomped in his backyard.

In a decision yesterday that has implications for Jeffrey Clarke, a Trump election fraud believer, Fulton County [Georgia] Judge Scott McAfee, denied a motion from Trump's lawyers to disclose non-public evidence that House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack supposedly shared with Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

"The Court finds it is unable to grant the Defendant's requested relief as the items requested do not exist, and that the state has adequately addressed the other concerns raised by defense counsel. The motion is therefore moot," McAfee wrote. McAfee's ruling is also a loss for former assistant attorney general Jeffrey Clark, who was the other party in the motion seeking the non-existent documents. 

Clark is involved in disbarment proceeding in Washington where he could lose his licence to practice law as a result of his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. Trump has become involved in the disbarment hearings on the basis of alleged executive privilege in discussions he had with Clark while on the White House staff of Trump, with one of Trump's legal team sending a letter to Clark suggesting that is in Trumps mind.