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General Rugby Discussion 3

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  • #2882
    Billy_the_Kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭Billy_the_Kid
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    A big surprise. A real hammer blow for Welsh rugby, he was a bright spark. I cant see him getting anywhere near an NFL roster.



  • #2883
    ionadnapóca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,195 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121623721#Comment_121623721

    I think Cornerback is supposed to be one of the trickiest position to play on defense followed by FS/SS. Need nous. He would be lost.

    He wants the glory. Offense. Someone mentioned punt return.

    He hasnt a hope



  • #2884
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Have to assume he'll earn much less over the next few years than had he stayed in rugby between club/country/potential Lions/endorsemens. I'd also assume that if/when he returns, it'll be won't be at the upper end of the wage scale given he'll have spent the time entirely focusing on another sport. Good luck to him but the chances of it working out well for him are very low.

    Post edited by Pete_Cavan on


  • #2885
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121625622#Comment_121625622

    If he makes a roster he will obliterate what he would have earned in Europe. But he probably won't.



  • #2886
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121625869#Comment_121625869

    Yeah, if he makes a roster he will earn a lot more than if he stayed put, but if he doesn't make one then he will very likely be worse off in say 4 years than if he stuck with rugby. While I'm sure he'll get a contract in rugby if NFL doesn't work out, it'll be at less than if he stayed and went on the next Lions tour. He'll get a contract but will have to prove that he deserves a top end rugby salary in the next contract.

    If he doesn't make a roster, he could be a couple of hundred grand worse off in 4 years time. It's a big gamble.



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  • #2887
    phog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,845 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Some fantastic handling here (1980)


    https://twitter.com/ApsmRugby/status/1747339275417326033?t=oypnADYfIR4xceG7dYlVug&s=19




  • #2888
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Some cracking play there. The difference in the game from the early 70s is startling.



  • #2889
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That footage is bizarre to watch. It looks like Rugby, I know it is IS rugby, but it's just so chaotic, the men so small in stature.

    I wonder is there a major international sport whose rules and structure has changed as much in the modern era as Rugby Union? Soccer has barely changed since 1980 - the back-pass rule maybe the only significant change that looks weird now - and really only stamina and conditioning is the major difference IMO? While other high-contact sports like Ice Hockey or American Football I think have only changed WRT the sophistication of protective equipment ... but what sport has seen so much change with its rules?



  • #2890
    Buer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Great to see actual footage of Sexton's debut.



  • #2891
    sydthebeat
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    england 6n squad:

    England’s 36-player training squad.

    FORWARDS:

    Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 18 caps)

    Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 107 caps)

    Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, 3 caps)

    Luke Cowan-Dickie (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)

    Chandler Cunningham-South (Harlequins, uncapped)

    Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, 5 caps)

    Theo Dan (Saracens, 7 caps)

    Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins, 15 caps)

    Ben Earl (Saracens, 25 caps)

    Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 58 caps)

    Jamie George (Saracens, 85 caps) – captain

    Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 7 caps)

    Nick Isiekwe (Saracens, 11 caps)

    Maro Itoje (Saracens, 76 caps)

    Joe Marler (Harlequins, 88 caps)

    Beno Obano (Bath Rugby, 3 caps)

    Tom Pearson (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)

    Ethan Roots (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped)

    Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 33 caps)

    Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 30 caps)

     

    BACKS:

    Oscar Beard (Harlequins, uncapped)

    Danny Care (Harlequins, 96 caps)

    Elliot Daly (Saracens, 64 caps)

    Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)

    Immanuel Feyi-Waboso (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped)

    George Ford (Sale Sharks, 91 caps)

    Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, 3 caps)

    George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)

    Ollie Lawrence (Bath Rugby, 21 caps)

    Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 11 caps)

    Tom Roebuck (Sale Sharks, uncapped)

    Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 57 caps)

    Fin Smith (Northampton Saints, uncapped)

    Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 30 caps)

    Ben Spencer (Bath Rugby, 4 caps)

    Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 31 caps)



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  • #2892
    Buer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Alldritt named as French captain. Was unexpected.

    A good few changes in the French squad.

    No Flament, Hastoy, Willemse, Macalou, Dupont, Vincent or Villiere from the RWC squad. Some injured, a few just dropped and some involved with the 7s team.



  • #2893
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Alldritt was the most logical choice. An ever-present, fluent English speaker and one of their best players.



  • #2894
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628185#Comment_121628185

    George is an interesting choice for Captain - He's been starting from the bench for Saracens in recent times behind Theo Dan who is also in the squad..



  • #2895
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,913 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Ethan roots has taken a long route to test rugby.

    White he's undoubtedly talented, you'd wonder if his inclusion is another indication of how shite Welsh rugby is right now. He must have snubbed wales a few times in order to fight for an England spot



  • #2896
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629376#Comment_121629376

    Was he eligible for Wales when he was at the Ospreys? I believe he qualifies for England through one of his parents.



  • #2897
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,913 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629781#Comment_121629781

    You know, I kinda assumed he was when he moved to ospreys, but after looking it up I can't find anything to suggest he has a Welsh connection.

    But hey anyway, Welsh rugby is shite:)



  • #2898
    phog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,845 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Can he make a silk purse from a sow's ear


    https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1747892696256065972?t=cXMXVaRi6VzHyP1SsRIKtw&s=19




  • #2899
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,913 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Well, if anyone can, he can.

    But he's starting with a complete clusterfcuk



  • #2900
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    This one of those scenarios where success or failure, Schmidt's reputation will endure? Cos Australia is in such a mess nobody(?) will criticise him for not turning it around - yet if he does his stock will only improve?



  • #2901
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,785 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    If previous reports are correct, they've given him power to totally rejig Oz Rugby. I can imagine him doing quite well there long term in that case.



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  • #2902
    Crash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    And wouldn't be too surprised to see Nucifora landing a longer term deal with RA if this goes through as well.

    Definitely gets me more interested in the Lions tour now.



  • #2903
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121633207#Comment_121633207

    Was chatting with my mates and apparently Nucifora is lined up for a role with Aussie rugby. If those 2 can't fix it, they might as well burn the place down.

    Post edited by Yeah_Right on


  • #2904
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121632887#Comment_121632887

    Unless he has power to mess with Fox or the NRL he's on a hiding to nothing.



  • #2905
    Crash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121633223#Comment_121633223

    He's signed up for a one-year advisory role, but i'd assume he's going into a longer term role as long as the blazers don't stifle him. My guess is RA want him long term, but having been burnt by them back in the late 2000s, I think(?) he's probably reticent to sign up for something long term without proof they won't act like their usual selves.



  • #2906
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,621 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Harry Mallinder is leaving rugby to take a crack at the NFL.

    Not as big a move as Rees-Zammit, but he was considered a top young prospect not too long ago.

    https://twitter.com/HarryMal10/status/1748034352850587967?t=1cMoHfh2Mvl8UsxaozxGRA&s=09




  • #2907
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635509#Comment_121635509

    Related to Jim Mallinder?

    Anyway, kicker/punter is by far the best shot of actually getting into the NFL. Can still make millions a year doing it too.



  • #2908
    Roy Enough Twit
    Posts: 0 ✭ Roy Enough Twit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635540#Comment_121635540

    Yeah, his son. Was the star player on the England team that blew away the Irish U20 dream team 2016 team in the RWC Final. Hasn't really happened at senior level.

    Has an oddly similar physique to Sam Prendergast, very tall 6ft 4 or 6ft 5 and rangy.



  • #2909
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Darragh Leader as well, along with 3 other Irish players (2 GAA goalies from Ulster)



  • #2910
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,234 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121632685#Comment_121632685

    I feel hurt

    Best of luck to Joe in the role



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  • #2911
    Buer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635587#Comment_121635587

    Similar height but he was a bloody tank. Could easily have been a flanker or even a lock if he had been moved up the pitch at a younger age. Was playing the wrong code, probably.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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