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Common Travel Area - Can we freely move?

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    #32
    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121624481#Comment_121624481

    There are spot checks at U.K. airports for CTA arrivals. Experienced 3 times at Lcy, twice at Gatwick and once at Heathrow.



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    #33
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121626191#Comment_121626191

    Is this new? I used to travel over regularly up til 2019 and never seen a spot check.



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    #34
    VG31
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121626198#Comment_121626198

    I was checked once at LBA (last year). That was a first for me.



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    #35
    VG31
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    On this topic, what about similar questions when entering the EU?

    I've been asked at Amsterdam the last two times I flew in there where I'm going, why and for how long. I answered but it seems excessive considering the right to freedom of movement in the EU. Why does it matter how long I'm going for in particular considering I can legally stay as long as I like? I find border agents rarely ask questions at all elsewhere in the EU execept sometimes casually like just to make their job less boring.

    I usually try to use e-gates where possible (except at Dublin where it's faster to go to a manned booth and they're usually very friendly anyway). They can't ask you questions!



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    #36
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121626240#Comment_121626240

    They don't care what you say, they care about how you say it.



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    #37
    VG31
    Registered Users Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭VG31


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121626297#Comment_121626297

    That's not really relevant though for travel within the EU with freedom of movement. It's not like travelling to another country where they can deny you entry. The extent of the checks should be that you document is valid and you're not on a wanted list.

    Besides like I said before, e-gates can't ask you questions and in AMS I could have used them instead.



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    #38
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121626491#Comment_121626491

    The right of an eu citizen to enter another eu country is not an absolute one.



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    #39
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    People often confuse freedom of movement of workers with freedom of movement of people. You don't have the absolute right to reside indefinitely in another EU country if not employed there.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #40
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭yagan


    Countries still retain the right to border checking even within the Schengen zone. Denmark reintroduced border checks although they're officially temporary.

    Schengen ultimately is about legal jurisdiction and the sharing of information which reduces the need for but not eliminates border checks between members.



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    #41
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121626240#Comment_121626240

    Your journey was less about moving within the EU and more about entering the Schengen zone from a non-Schengan country. If you were arriving from France or Italy, you wouldn't have come face to face with any officials.



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    #42
    VG31
    Registered Users Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭VG31


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629691#Comment_121629691

    Yeah I'm well aware of that. I was just wondering the point of questioning EU travellers entering the Schengen area. It's not common in my experience.



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