Random EV thoughts.....

Would it be possible for a mod to check if Gibson Clumsy Shelf is a bot? The posts make no sense and it's pushing a certain familiar agenda, but in a mechanical way, like a script still learning the domain.

The misinformation (or disinformation?) on EVs is getting a bit annoying now, is it a concerted effort or are we just being paranoid?

Newstalk drive time show yesterday evening "after the break we'll speak to x from Dublin fire brigade about why EVs are going on fire all over the place"!

Couldn't believe thats what he said

when they eventually got to the interview, it was the SIPTU shop steward for DFB, the whole thing was about they apparently are not getting sent the right info for fires where any sort of battery is involved, e-scooter, EV etc. they dont get sent it on the callout or in the appliance when on the way whereas in other jurisdictions do, they also have an issue with not getting the right training

And obviously a lithium ion battery needs different handling than a normal fire.

he actually said "EVs dont go on fire any more frequently than any other kind of car" but if you just heard the headline and didnt hear the interview and know nothing about EVs then your "another reason not to go near them"

I’m sure the data is absolutely correct, but EVs (in Ireland anyway), account for about 2-3% of the national fleet of cars and are 95% from the past 3-4 years. You’d expect them to be that much more reliable that ICE cars; but no one would (or should) refer to that data set as ‘pro EV fud’ or whatever it would be called.

as for the comments about everything with an anti EV tint being “msm fud”, I think it’s more a case of general ignorance than anything.

EVs are VERY topical at the moment - so they’ll be in the news even if their absolute total is in the noise level of all vehicles.

Why though? Why would journalists or private stations be anti electric cars? Whats in it for them?

im just curious.

so many posts here make it sound like something conspiratorial - and invariably it just turns out to be ignorance or laziness.

Adrian weckler (who I don’t know at all btw), was eaten alive for accurately describing his specific EV experience for ownership, depreciation and public charging - but he’s certainly not anti EV.

you could easily argue the opposite too, by simply ‘following the money’ as they say - the people with most to lose from anti EV articles are EV owners.

when cars go on fire in car parks recently, it’s usually been twitter bots jumping on the EV angle, and then lazy journalists writing lazy articles simply because EVs are so topical.

Two reasons, clicks pay the bills and bad news EV articles get lots of clicks, comments and interactions. Journalists now see the articles that work and make similar.

Other reason is that oil industry wants to delay EV take up, so fear uncertainty and doubt to delay take up by say 5-10 years. One "research" said tyres pollute more than ICE and EVs are "heavier" and so EV=bad.

The car companies also were very misleading, self charging, Nissan epower (petrol), phev with tiny batteries (now banned in EU) and dealers knocking EVs to those who want to buy an EV. Even the prices were 10-20k higher than similar ICE when possibly the parts cost difference cannot justify the difference.

You need to look at who gains.

Do ye reckon the ~10% price drop of the Tesla Y overnight will have much impact on pricing of similar type cars like id4, enyaq, maybe Ioniq 5……….or will it take months for sellers/dealers to reduce prices?

VW dropped and Tesla followed it seems this time anyway. Here in Ireland that is.

Or was that VW drop in response to the prior Tesla drop????? I suspect more drops of smaller amounts from all manufacturers.