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Classic tax

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  • #52
    pah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭pah


    Am I right in saying you can tax your car at ANY motor tax office in the country



  • #53
    Bus Boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Bus Boy


    Regarding the RF111 form lads and lassies, is Section 4 the part we need to be filling out and if so, what boxes do you tick/fill? Thanks as I'll be running the gauntlet on this on Monday on a car that was manufactured August '94. Crossing fingers....


    TIA



  • #54
    kdevitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    Section 4 [Other - Please Specify] - just write in 'change to vintage as car is 30 years old'.



  • #55
    Bus Boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Bus Boy


    Thank you @kdevitt . Always admire your little collection btw. 👌



  • #56
    kdevitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607913#Comment_121607913

    No worries - and thanks!



  • #57
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121601733#Comment_121601733

    You are right.

    The significance of where the “vehicle [is] ordinarily kept” on the renewal form was explained to me in the local around 2008/9? The economic bubble had burst and our overlords had issued a decree to the effect that it is verboten to rock up to zee dole office in ein Transit - so Councils were told not to tax (at commercial rate) commercial vehicles for privateers.

    To create a bit of banter I volunteered to tax the jeep of a traveller man whom I knew quite well - his response was “I’ll tax yours for you”. How is an unregistered self-employed businessman - no offence - going to do that? says I. Simple says he - South Dublin don’t refuse money unlike the Wicklow Cocos - I just get the girl to write “the Campsite, Tallaght” on the form.

    Now, if some of the posters on this thread came back and told us where the early bird Councils are, a helpful list could be compiled.



  • #58
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,898 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610492#Comment_121610492

    Dublin city uses the year. You need to ring and arrange an appointment date and time as office is not drop in anymore. Only one place for all Dublin. As hinted by others you need insurance with the reg of car. You might get away with just putting random insurance on form but don't go in without all paperwork. Ideally print out forms at home as when I was there they had no blank forms lying around.



  • #59
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121613843#Comment_121613843

    Thanks for that - and thanks for the tips; most helpful.

    Had not realised that Dublin was now down to one office (whilst Donegal has as many offices as there are counties in Munster - a quick Google reveals).

    Would never have considered bringing proof of insurance - Top Tip - (although I’m old enough to remember not being issued a tax disc without proof).

    So in twenty three and a half months the Alfa shall be taxed for a whole year for the fist time in its life!



  • #60
    Hyperbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Was in Kilkenny motor tax office a couple of months back sorting tax on daily driver. Explained that I had a car first registered in Aug '94 which I wanted to change to classic in 2024. She explained the process re paperwork and went off to check with another staffer if I could do it from the beginning of '24. Answer was yes. The car just needs to be in it's 30th year and the KK office will process all applications to switch from private class to vintage.

    Have had my e36 since 2007 and it's been on classic insurance since 2014 and only used for shows and summer spins. The tax was always a ballache that was hard to justify, especially last summer when I barely drove it due to terrible weather. Will be fantastic to slap a 12 month disc on it for buttons this year.



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  • #61
    Dylancorco
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Dylancorco


    Mayo county council Castlebar tax office



  • #62
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    Thanks lads. Decisions, decisions - a relatively quick in and out to the Big Smoke or a few days away in KK or MO (or WX?).

    Only in Ireland could we contemplate a short holiday break around taxing the car - I’d hate to live in a place where everything was unambiguous. Off topic, but: Speaking of unambiguous have ye seen the new proposal regarding bringing in a UK car from Never Never Never Land - from Mayday if the car has been in NI for a “reasonable” period of time then no VAT or Duty is payable.



  • #63
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,362 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121651828#Comment_121651828

    I hear they're easy going in west cork😁

    I'm getting my 1 day of legal tax free driving for the NCT this week, if it fails I'm going to visit the far end of Donegal for a retest during the summer.

    Where have you seen that proposal? Think it might devalue some under 30 classics as people aren't getting hit with the vat and duty. One of mines not 30 until 2028.



  • #64
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121657390#Comment_121657390

    Wild West Cork has its advantages - if the car breaks down you will always come across an auld bike

    Why stop at Donegal? - if An Post consider us a nation once again then it should be ditto for going to a mechanic for a fix (must be great craic legally driving without an NCT - I’m blue in the face pleading with testers to fail the car so I can spend the rest of my life bringing it to a different mechanic every day).

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/registration-of-imported-used-vehicles/registering-vehicles-from-ni.aspx



  • #65
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,362 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Reasonable amount of time, going on their own rules you'd assume it's over 12mts to be naturalized in NI.

    You can drive your UK car in the Republic of Ireland for up to 12 months. If you want to drive it for longer than that, it will be considered a permanent export.



  • #66
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    Sounds reasonable 😁 but as the state’s nice little earner has all but dried-up, I’m guessing 6 months, same as the new/second-hand cutoff.



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  • #67
    alo1587
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭alo1587


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121577249#Comment_121577249

    Just an update, cork tax office taxed it as vintage, have it taxed at 56e now



  • #68
    doh777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭doh777


    Question re classic tax...

    My daily runner turns 30 this year and I want to change to classic tax.

    Will my insurance policy stay the same? Or does it now have to be put on classic insurance or the like, for which I understand I need to have a 'primary car'.

    Hope that's clear. Thanks in advance for all replies.



  • #69
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    Thanks alo - another holiday destination to add to the list😁.



  • #70
    Dex Dexta
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Dex Dexta


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121712690#Comment_121712690

    Classic and Daily are mutually exclusive.

    Top Tip: get a 500 quid Micra as your daily.



  • #71
    w124man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121712690#Comment_121712690

    You can avail of the classic tax and it wont affect your insurance policy. You do not need to have a classic policy because your car is 30 years old.



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  • #72
    kdevitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121716390#Comment_121716390

    It’s entirely dependent on your policy. Mine can be driven for the work commute if I wanted.



  • #73
    doh777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭doh777


    .

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121716724#Comment_121716724

    Ok great. Thanks for clearing that up.



  • #74
    Keliuss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭Keliuss


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121512899#Comment_121512899

    Well I'm happy to announce my 1995 registered BMW 5 Series has just been taxed for €56 with Dublin City Council, so is offically Vintage at the age of 29 and a half (ish) 🤣

    Car was manufactured Dec 1994 and first registered Jan 1995. As evidence with the submission by post, I supplied a copy of an email from BMW Group (Germany) confirming manufacture date, along with a photo of the datestamp sticker which is beside the VIN plate.

    So I'd argue that @zg3409 is correct and I theorethically could have taxed it earlier this year.

    One wonders how the conversation will ensue when the car goes for NCT in October. Will they issue a one or two year NCT?

    Keliuss



  • #75
    kdevitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122367625#Comment_122367625

    I'd argue that the reality is that the guys in Dublin City Council just really don't give much of a shite about it.

    The statute on vintage eligibility for ZV plates is specific on it being anniversary of manufacture date, thats the only legal language anywhere that comes close to confirming what constitutes a vintage car. Several councils specify anniversary of manufacture date for vintage road tax eligibility based off that.



  • #76
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,898 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122367625#Comment_122367625

    I would try delay the NCT if you can until December, unless you need the car.



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