Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

Hope he gets 20 years.

Still can't believe Stevie G allows his daughter to date Lee Byrne - who has no involvement in crime :-).

He’s not from Bangladesh

He can hardly dictate as to who his adult daughter dates

Yah but he can dictate who he takes photos with and smiley, happy go lucky photos of himself with Liam Byrne and his son leaves alot to be desired. Gerrard dosent seem to give a toss, taking saudi money also but I cant blame him for that, I'd do it myself. Thanks

He wont walk into another job in England, he failed at villa and he's failing in Saudi Arabia now too. His managerial reputation is shot to pieces

No doubt he had ambitions about getting the Liverpool job at some point so you would think he would have being very careful about keeping his reputation intact as much as possible for that job .Not sure if his life away from football has got any coverage in the papers over in the UK or not .

Football like other sports has always brushed up against organised crime. The Liverpool team when it was managed by Kenny Dalglish used to after London games go to Ra Ras a club controlled by the Adams family. Apparently they were either very well looked after and/or there were one or two incidents at the club with players, resolved quietly, such that some involved with Liverpool at the time felt well disposed towards what was then London's leading organised crime gang. Dalglish was later a large shareholder in the sports management group Proactive. When there was a row with another agent over Wayne Rooney Dalglish brought Tommy Adams to meetings. This is quite literally like a figure in Irish sport turning up at meetings with a member of the Hutch and/or Kinahan families. There are several pictures of the late David Gold & David Sullivan owners of West Ham with David Hunt. About ten years ago Hunt sued the Sunday Times as they had described him as a gangster who was 'too big' for the Metropolitan police to take on. Hunt was found by the court to lead a vast criminal organisation and lost the defamation case. As a consequence he has cash flow problems and needed to borrow c£1 million at short order to pay legal costs. He borrowed it from David Sullivan. Some years back Stevie G was being 'taxed' by George Bromley a Liverpool drug dealer - John Kinsella (who was later shot dead in a gangland murder) intervened at the request of the Gerrard family to get Bromley to back off. Going from memory but in '04/05 Stevie G was some way down the road to transferring to Chelsea. Apparently whether it was Bromley or Kinsella or other folk of a similar nature but he was 'persuaded' to change his mind and did quite a sudden u-turn.

It's a well known thing that Bromleys son targeted Gerard and then that John Kinsella then got involved

I read that years ago and it's easily checked on Google

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Dalglish has some very interesting mates from Maghull

Remember Nidges wedding when they all danced up the aisle. That was gangster as ****. Roo Redmond did something like that at Warren Dumbbells wedding

Not sure how you think Kin has got it so wrong, Season 2 seemed to be very well received.

And Spin-offs are usually rubbish. Great shows are best left the way they finished.

Jimmy White and Gary Mason attended Joey Pyle's funeral. Theres a part in one of White’s autobiographies where an unnamed gangster gets back the handbag of his mum who had been mugged. White is then meant to repay the favour by visiting a ‘friend’ who turns out to be Reggie Kray. However White is heavily on the lemonades at the time and keeps missing meets to be driven to the relevant prison. Pyle is not now as well remembered as others of his era but was a very significant organised criminal in London from the 1960s to 1990s. Frank Warren who in 2020 claimed to not have been aware of allegations against Daniel Kinahan owned the London Arena for first 8-10 years of its life. It was opened in late 1980s and closed and demolished c2005. The crime journalist Michael Gillard has written that 'The north London crime family had an interest in the London Arena.' Gillard (referring to the Adams family) does not say when this interest was and as stated Warren was not involved for the last ten or so years before the Arena was demolished. Warren denies any links with crime and is very litigious. He is from Islington his late uncle Bob Warren, was extremely well known in London criminal circles from late 1950s, and is mentioned on the bugging that led to Terry Adams 2007 conviction. Adams was recorded saying:

' Me and Bobby Warren was in a car once right Dan. There was a geezer that was lying to us Dan, right, on my baby’s life. Dan, I’ve got something about me when things happen. When I hit someone I do them damage. And I went to the geezer. Stealing 100 grand it was Dan, or eighty grand, and I went ‘crack.’ On my baby’s life Dan, his kneecap come right out there.'

Warren has told interviewers:

' I thought it was to the Adams brothers, I say, the north London crime family, that people liked to link him."No," says Warren, raising his eyebrows, "that came afterwards. When I started out in boxing, they were kids. How am I going to be running about with kids younger than me? It just doesn't work out. Do I know them? Yeah, of course I know them. They come from Islington. I knew their dad very well. I haven't seen them for years, but I knew them. I know lots of people.'

Warren is 70. The three best known Adams brothers- are Terry Adams (who is 69), Patsy Adams (who is 67) and Tommy Adams (who is 65). The less well known Danny Adams is about 60 and the youngest Mickey (who is 57) might have qualified as 'kids' in 1980 when the then 28 year old Warren promoted his first licensed fight. There was a British TV programme on Adams in late 1990s presented by Martin Short for ITV. Short found details at UK company house of a company that Warren and, from memory, Tommy Adams were directors of. Warren denied any knowledge of this. The recording was on YouTube for some years and was taken down 6-8 years ago.