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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    killgallen (injured), Bolton and Stockdale other names that are in form. Although Bolton is very much in the power winger mould to replace Lowe, would probably need a longer run to be considered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,048 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Do we know when the 6n squad will be announced? Presumably pretty soon?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    It will never happen because they will want to win the 6 nations but there is a world in which a huge number of the internationals from the past 12 months could sit back and new blood be brought in

    Players like:

    Oli Jager, Roman Salanoa, Jack Boyle, Jeremy Loughman, Tom Stewart ,Edwin Edogbo, Joe McCarthy. Thomas Ahearn, Craig Casey, Sam Prendergast, Jack Carty, Jack Crowley Jacob Stockdale, Robert Baloucoune, Calvin Nash, Jordan Larmour, Stuart McCluskey, Cathal Forde, Antoine Frisch, Ciaran Frawley, Jimmy O'Brien, Shane Daly, Rob Russell, Tommy O'Brien etc...

    I'm not saying drop the entire World cup squad but there is plenty of talent in Ireland that deserves more of a chance.

    Resting players like Andrew Porter, Tadhg Furlong, Ronan Kelleher, Josh Van Der Flier, Jack Conan, JGP, James Lowe, Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Robbie Henshaw, Bundee Aki, Hugo Keenan and others gives them time to get healthy, rest there bodies that have been in war after war after war the past 12+ months and give others a chance, whilst allowing these players to rediscover form isn't the worst idea in the world, especially when other teams in the competition apart from France and maybe Scotland are all in rebuild mode themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    I can imagine Ger Gilroy saying that first sentence on OTB.

    There is no world in which that happens for many reasons. One it’s disrespectful of our main competition, two we’d likely lose most of our games, three the mood music around the team would turn toxic with people calling for Farrell’s head, loss of prize money and dwindling crowds, four how do you think the key players getting rested who have short careers are going to react to being told they’re not needed for now. They’re just the ones that came off the top of my head but I’m sure there’s plenty more.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    However in this world absolutely no team competing in the 6N would even dream of doing this because it would be lambs to the slaughter and somewhere between pointless and counterproductive.

    What exactly is it you think this would accomplish?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Why would any country do something as ridiculous in the best yearly competition in the World?

    Ireland of all countries has a player welfare system in place to make sure the top internationals get the rest they need. Dropping the best players in the country in the blind hope that someone might be able to step up is a sure fire way to get the sack as head coach

    No other team is going to mass drop players. France did it once because they had a World Cup to aim for and look how that left them. They won't do it again and go all out to win everything from now on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Roman Salanoa! You're joking? He's injured 90% of the time.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Everleigh Freezing Oasis


    Mack Hansen confirmed out of the 6N. Shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,048 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    And Lowe still MIA, could be a very different looking back 3 come February.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Everleigh Freezing Oasis


    Lowe was pictured in training (well, running at least) before the Ulster game. If he's not back this weekend then you'd wonder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Billy_the_Kid
    Master


    Bad news around Mack, he looked in trouble at the time. Big opportunity for all the other wingers to get game time. Would Zebo be in the mix? On form he would deserve the call up



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zebo has only played 3 games this season, he's played well but has gotten a lot more airtime because they happened to be interpros...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    There were some incredibly reckless clear outs in the Munster/Connacht game, leading to long term injuries for both sides.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Think Hansen's injury was pretty much the last ruck of the game as well. Got dumped on his shoulder.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,074 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Ireland has coverage in most positions, of course 10 is the most glaring but I think Farrell is doing a grat job giving lads opportunitise, it's not a case of wholesale changes, more 1 or 2 changes per game to give players game time, we were 1 score from a RWC semi final so no need to change everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,224 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mack was one of our better performers in the RWC and is now out for the 6Ns, that's not good. How good would it be to have Conway now.

    We're possibly without POM too, another stand out player during the RWC, at least in the back row there is cover.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Everleigh Freezing Oasis


    JOB will apparently be out long term as well.

    I think we still don't know the story with Lowe.

    Stockdale to come back in? He's playing well this season. If Lowe doesn't make it we could have an unfamiliar face, Nash maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭CONSI


    Think the back 3 will be Keenan, Stockdale and Nash...Ringrose and Bundee in the centre and crowley, JGP at half back. My only concern would be the french wingers, who give nightmares to better, more seasoned wingers than we have and I'd hate to see Nash or someone get a chance and then have a tough game against genuine world class players...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    We’re in dire straights if Simon Zebo is anywhere near the squad.

    Keenan, Lowe, Nash, Stockdale, Baloucoune, O’Brien, Larmour all streets ahead. Bolton at Connacht has looked decent aswell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,942 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'm hoping TOB and Baloucoune get a shot. Little interest in seeing a Stockdale retread, he's not at the standard required imo. Such a shame Osbourne is out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Baloucoune has lost confidence/form entirely at this stage. He looks a shadow of the player he was in 2022.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Keenan is full back, Lowe hasnt played, Nash should be ahead of Zebo, Stockdale has looked good and should be ahead of Zebo, Balacoune looks out of form, O Brien is injured, Larmour maybe. We arent stocked at wing at all at this stage.

    Zebo shouldn't be near the squad but we are struggling there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭ljsulster


    Good job Stockdale is back to his best.

    I wonder if there is an international lifeline for Will Addison- We know Farrell likes him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    it is going to be hard for Munster players to find any sort of form atm. On current resources we will struggle to field a team not to mind win games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    We aren’t stocked but putting an almost 34 year old Zebo in isn’t the answer for me.

    Bolton, Shane Daly, even Rob Russell for some experience.

    In fairness to him, he has played decent in the two Munster games I saw he played in but he surely can’t be an answer. Would question his professionalism aswell but that’s probably for another day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    We're in bother for this Six Nations I think. Sexton is gone and whomever steps in for Hansen or Lowe, or potentially both, will be a significant downgrade in terms of line breaking and creativity. The latter are miles ahead of every other wing in the country for that.

    Lowe will be brought straight back in, I think. There's too much disruption to Ireland's attack otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Bloody hell. Given the way we know he can play and Baloucoune's poor form, Rob Lyttle must be absolutely kicking himself.



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Our forward pack is extremely strong so I wouldn't be too pessimistic for the 6N



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭El Vino


    perhaps play Ringrose on wing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,942 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'd hope that Farrell will give Baloucoune a chance in the squad, provincial form notwithstanding. I'd think his defense alone would put him ahead of Stockdale.

    Surely Frawley will be looked at as back up 15?



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