General Election 2025 - Not voting for FF/FG/SF

The Tories.

I didnt take issue with amy of them.

I just answered the OP's question.

What is their equivalent?

Have to disagree with you. The fact that the government parties increased social welfare payments for jobseekers by €12 makes it more worthwhile to stay on the dole for a family than get a minimum wage job .

In contrast, I lost a euro in my pay with the tax changes.

Higher welfare is inconsistent with the rise in the minimum wage - leaving welfare as is and raising minimum wage by 10% should be sufficient to encourage more to avail of opportunities in the labour market

How did you lose €1 in your income tax based on the tax changes?

If you don't want to work plenty of excuses not to work.

Minimum wage is €12.50 an hour, so that's 40 hours a week which is €500. Jobseekers is €232

While on job seekers plenty of courses available to reskill. Personally if I was on jobseekers I would do courses etc to keep myself busy.

None of the main parties are looking to change any of this, in reality Sinn Fein plan is to pay more to people not less.

You said that already. I just asked how based on the new income tax reduction is how?

A family of 4 with 1 working on minimum wage gets less than the same family on social welfare, plus they loose the medical card, fuel allowance, double weeks etc.

Why would they bother.

There are those who have never worked a day, know all they're entitled to and are teaching their kids how the system works rather than put them in school.

Sure I understand that it’s more than double, and if money was tight it would be a big bonus. But was giving an example of how I have seen it directly been a deterrent to work. If it was €500 versus zero it’s one thing, but 500 versus 230 is so much less attractive IMO.

Person in question is well qualified, masters etc., will find a another job so hasn’t availed of any courses, and wouldn’t be able to stay on jobseekers long term anyway due to the means test but still interesting I thought.

If you're working you don't get fuel allowance. If over the limit on earnings which you are, then medical card is lost

When you said a family of four did you mean a single parent and three children then? The income threshold for a medical card is €607 for a lone parent.

I know, but nobody is going to make them work.

I wrote it in a paper in college 35 years ago and still believe it that anyone on a social welfare payment long term should be put on a community employment program.if they refuse, cut their payments

It should never be more beneficial to not work and this government has done just that.