Sick of this country

Then you won't disagree that we should make it a requirement that anyone who has their third level education funded by the state should guarantee years of service to the state thereafter?

I've already indicated that while I support this scheme it is only part of what is needed to improve our health service.

If any other similar schemes are proposed I will consider them on a case by case basis.

The problem with such an idea, is the discrimination.

I worked in different public sector roles down the years, and studied at night while I did so, with the employer paying for the course, on the proviso that I owed that employer, or other State body, one year of service for every year of study funded.

Now that is fine for a person in employment. I'm getting paid for full-time work and am being facilitated in professional education part-time, so, quid pro quo.

The difficulty arises in undergraduate studies in full-time education. All kids leaving school in Ireland are entitled to supplemented third-level education under the 'Free Fees' programme. It doesn't cover accommodation and loads of other stuff, but all else being equal, they only pay a registration fee and some other sundries.

Lets assume you have three Graduates. One in Commerce, one in Engineering, one in Nursing.

Each of the three want to leave University with their Level 8 Graduate Degree and go to work in banking in New York, building in the UAE and pediatric care in Melbourne. The each need a sponsored visa and a few quid to get started, but otherwise its just three bright and hard working young people heading off to enjoy the carefree life of working abroad for a few years.

On what basis do you put the golden handcuffs on the Nursing graduate, but not on our other two young friends?

The answer is that you cannot. Not on College leavers that aren't already in any way in State employment. And paid Nursing placement doesn't count as that, its part of the course requirement.

....dont worry, its bullsh1t, it ll never happen, thank god, just lads talking sh1te on the internets!

And yet it's already started with the students in Northern Ireland.

For students in the future it could well happen in ROI, either from undergrad or grad courses.

Why wouldn't it ? Grad entry requires fees .

Drive who out of the country exactly?

"Junior doctor is on the learning rung"

Junior doctor is a title, it doesn't reflect their experience. Some junior doctors have more years served than GPs, they've just followed a different career path.

theyre talking sh1te, i wouldnt be worrying about it....

nothing easy about our health systems problems, theres probably not a health system on the planet that has managed to reset itself after covid, our problems will persist for decades unfortunately....

I suppose it could cause some resentment if people were forced to join the scheme against their will.

There is no indication that anyone will be forced to participate in the scheme.

Here is an interview with a Clare GP who is a member of the IMO GP Committee.

He broadly welcomes the scheme but acknowledges that while it is a step in the right direction more needs to be done.

There's no lack of candidates to study medicine especially if it continues to be subsidised.

Stop with the melodrama already.

Comparing Ireland with some shithole country is a bit of a copout.

There are definitely things wrong with this country, set your expectations a bit fecking higher. For people born in Ireland they saw some things used to be better some worse, we don't need to accept things are getting worse e.g. healthcare/ housing just because some other dump is worse than Ireland .

We dont have a housing crisis across the whole country. Look at the amount of houses for sale (and the low prices) in rural places like Leitrim or Kerry for example.

This isnt a housing crisis

For example - 225k!?

There's houses for sale if you have the money.

But renting wise, Ireland has a humungous crisis across the whole country.

You think 225k for a house on Ballygologue Road is indicative of no housing crisis? (An area I know all too well with family and friends living on that exact road and all over Kerry).

564 houses for sale in Kerry. Average asking price? Year on Year increase? It’s a shame that Ireland doesn’t have price histories on houses like for example The US, where you can see what the history of the house sale/offer/asking was.

i have a very active interest in property. I can actually tell you the housing prices in that exact road going back 30 years. 225k is scandalous. But if someone offers that, the good luck to the seller. That house will require another 60k spent on it to stop it being cold and needing constant heating on.

I hate to bring this back to one of the hottest topics going but the influx of nearly one million new people into this country in a very short space of time, combined with other arrivals, is pushing young people out, pushing working class families ever closer to poverty and creating a have and have not society. Combine that with those who do not work, are given housing for various reasons, and you have the makings of a future society of rich and non-working. Ireland is not going in the right direction. Working should be rewarded not penalised,

P.S. What’s the average job available in Listowel/Tralee/ area? What’s the average wage?

Is that you Helen? 😀

Pay staff properly and they won't leave. But you think the state has the right to not pay them properly at all and then force them to remain in Ireland. That's called communism.

There won't be anything like that introduced as it's almost certainly unconstitutional and even if it were people should just leave anyway. They're not owned by people like Varadkar & O'Gorman.

As for your "accountants, solicitors, carpenters" not well paid in training. . . . Doctors, nurses and teachers must be scratching their heads wondering what getting paid in training is.

That house is rewired and replumbed and a C3 rated house. It's a 4 bed house in decent condition on a large site.

It's priced at 100+ below build cost. If you get it for the advertised you will be doing well. It will probably make 30+ above asking IMO however I do not know the area. However I suspect Mr Flashy or the McCarthy/Dundons are not your neighbours.

Houses similar to that for 140 10+ years ago were 40% of build cost back then.

And what is your narrative?

As you know I live in the US, I do not lock my doors. My house is open 24/7. My neighbours do not lock their doors. Try that in Ireland…oh by the way, no alarm on my home there. In Ireland, I have alarms, cameras (now) after numerous break ins. IMHO Ireland is not safer…based on my experience. Yet the narrative is that the US is less safe?

one US insurance company report is hardly a glowing report on Ireland’s safety. Tell that to the tourist who lost an eye, or was robbed? I’m sure he will tell you differently.

it’s almost as if Ireland were a glowingly safe , economic paradise, without issues and where unicorns bound along the streets.