What are people's reactions to today's proposed speed limit changes?

I said in another thread that I have noticed an increase of kids not in proper seats.

I'm 4'11" so I'm in a good position to tell if a child should be in a child seat or not. The amount of kids smaller than me just getting into the backseat and some even in the front seat is appalling.

Some investigations are unable to establish blame, the evidence just doesn't exist.

But the case reports from the Coroner's Court are available for all to see. They aren't concerned with a cult of personality.

In the last couple of days there have been two separate hit and runs with one pedestrian killed. Leaving the scene when you've hit a pedestrian is a scummy thing to do. I wonder how many aspects of road traffic legislation the driver was not complying with.

Then there was the incident in Mayo where a car with a 20 year old and 16 year old was in collision with a train at a level crossing at 3:30 pm. Not sure if this is recorded as a road incident or a rail incident or both but in any case - this seems to be the location. It took some doing to not see a train here. But but but SPEEDING

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Broadly welcome a revision downwards to reflect the limitations of the roads.

More attention should be paid to engineering solutions to improve junctions etc.

This is just a suggestion of limits.

Motorways 120

N roads and Regional roads with hard shoulder 100 . Without hard shoulder 80.

Local roads 60

Lanes 50

Main routes in Towns/Cities 50 or 60 depending on road design.

Town/City centres 30

Residential estates 30

The roads are getting more and more lawless these days and the complete lack of Garda presence is 90% of the issue.

People on mobile phones, slow drivers who aren't fit to drive a car holding up 10s of cars and inevitably leading to dangerous overtaking manoeuvres, clowns running red lights, drivers not paying attention to what lane they're meant to be and cutting in last second, I could go on. It's like the wild west out there.

What % of road fatalities is speed a contributing factor?

We are never told the actual cause of a road death I.e speeding, vehicle fault etc. A few years ago there was a road death in my home place. Car went off road in middle of place, mounted footpath and crashed into a house. Driver died, but nobody else involved thankfully. Turns he had a heart attack when the incident occurred. It still is classed as a road death. It is like the Covid Death stats. Only person that I know who died from Covid was a 60 a day smoker who had wrecked his lungs from smoking, but hey when he got Covid it killed him.Ergo it is a Covid Death.

Yes but I tend to agree with Tippman above

What are the causes of the crashes/accidents/fatalities?

Yes speed kills but perhaps so do drugs, suicidal tendencies, drug driving, lack of adequate policing

Perhaps the answer isn't lower speed limits ...

A common phrase I hear is "its multi factorial" which makes sense....

It would also make sense then that perhaps the solution should be multi factorial and perhaps another reduction in speed limits isn't the best or even desirable approach if reducing fatalities is the goal....

Maybe too many young unaccompanied drivers are wandering around, maybe its a lot of untrained older drivers, perhaps drivers at a lotbof accidents are found to have drugs in their system, perhaps if they were investigated some of the single vehicle single occupant fatalities/crashes shouldn't be taken into account when coming up with policy, perhaps enforcing the existing rules with an increased garda presence would work much better than limits that are perceived to be unrealistic by some

If its multifactorial...let's hear the factors, geat an unbiased impartail breakdown of all the fatalities or categories if peoples identity is in danger of being revealed and design a solution based on that

I could be wrong but I suspect lowering limits might not be all that effective when one got the nitty gritty on the causes of each fatality

Let's also get a comparison per head of population or something to level the playing field with other developed European countries to see how out of kilter we are ....and a comparison of police presence/enforcement on their roads

And a comparison on what their insurance costs are like and ehy while we are at it

And a comparison of how much their road safety quangos are funded etc etc...

Also have to take into account pedestrians.

According to RTE 44 of last year's 184 deaths were pedestrians...that's close to 24%!

From top of my head there were a couple of deaths from people walking on the motorway....I don't think it was because their car broke down and they were trying to get help either!

Some country roads are absolutely lethal for having no footpaths. However there's still a lot of pedestrians that think going walking at night in all black is a good choice.

You see very lightly reported follow ups like this that no level of laws would have stopped as the driver was a bloody selfish idiot...

I have family up in Inishowen and the attitudes to driving up there beggar belief, from all ages, not just young lads. It's not speeding, it's pure carelessness/not giving a fcuk about car maintenance, being insured etc. Dropping speed limits will do nothing to such attitudes.

Roads have a lot more traffic now than I'd say just 10 years ago. Also has to be a factor.