EV Depreciation

It's down to a perceived saving really. The tech. will become bog standard soon.

An easier drive but I drive both EV and manual diesel and while I'd pick a EV I wouldn't pay extra for one.

Automatic cars were always available but very few wanted them.

There was a big benefit for a while of charging for "free" off solar PV but that's largely gone now.

Then again petrol could go back over €2 quite easily and the goalposts shift again.

@waterwelly - "Automatic cars were always available but very few wanted them."

Everybody always wanted them. If they weren't way more expensive, slower, used far more fuel and were more expensive to fix. Rich people didn't care about any of that, so pretty much all high end cars were always bought with automatic anyway 😂

Not that it matters much anymore, the majority of new cars sold are automatic now, very soon all of them are. My teenage daughters have all decided they won't bother learning to drive in a manual. And interesting enough, the majority of teenage boys I have spoken too or heard of around me, are pretty much the same. Almost all of them have far less interest in cars than the previous generation.

I'm persisting with manual training for now, although I think the manual wheels we have will be the last.

I've found it useful to have the choice when hiring or borrowing a car. You don't always get an auto.

Also it gives you the choice if you get tired of ai self driving and flying cars in the future.

The rental argument was one I used to use too.

You’ll get more rental EVs in future in Europe, maybe, and it’s only a maybe - fleets buy to massively tight margins and EVs are currently causing huge unexpected balance sheet write-downs which will mean they’ll be very hesitant to buy more

the news from the past few weeks alone suggests the big rental companies are giving EVs back (Hertz and Tesla e.g), and are not ordering more

There's been a huge shortage of cars then a oversupply then the start of interest rates rises. Like a broken clock that's right twice a day. Every prediction will be right at some point. But it will be wrong most of the time.

Might depend where you are from. In my youth autos were seen as old man's car.

Theres a whole new culture of drifting, Fast and Furious. So it's not gone.

The numbers all show theres been a shift in Ireland to Auto. It will keep going. No denying that.

It will be a while yet until it's all electric though. It's as easy do the full test now and be ready for whatever eventualities life brings.

Picked it up yesterday. Funny how almost nobody knows what a Cupra is. Each time have to explain it's basically basically an id3, basically Seat, basically VW cause of VAG. I'm sure Il have lots of questions, Il put into Cupra Born thread.

Out of curiousity does anyone have what the GFV offers they are getting with new Cupra Born with no packs? I was surprised to get a GFV of 20.5k (15km P/A) offer on this near 1 year old car. I think it is reasonable. Was only 16k ish IIRC on 241 LR MG4. Also recently had GFV offer of 18k on an ID3 43k brand new. I had no intention of going PCP until I seen the offer. For spending a bit more overall it gives me many more easier options in 3 years.

Raleigh red. Wouldn't be my first choice, but I still like it.

“Model Y sales in Europe dropped in every quarter of 2023. It's unclear why this happened. Supply was not an issue.

• 73,386 in Q1 2023

• 65,511 in Q2 2023

• 62,399 in Q3 2023

• 53,663 in Q4 2023

Model Y supply was not an issue. Europe finished December with 33,000 Model Y in inventory. Giga Berlin stopped production for a week because of too much inventory.”

https://x.com/TroyTeslike/status/1743417925019619585?s=20

yes - otherwise known as a Demand problem