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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    If they whinged enough in a shiphole, I would imagine they'd be sent back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Spencer101


    Not literally on Sheriff street as they were demolished by 2000 ? Gary Hutch grew up Champions avenue - so nearer there ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭Cheddar Bob


    Saudi Arabia are trying to clean their image. It's the last place they'd be welcome.


    Not to mention that despite the recent reforms they're nowhere near Dubai/ Abu Dhabi/ Qatar status yet- you still can't legally drink anywhere, there's still a degree of dress codes for both men and women, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Russia is a non runner. Christy's not that braindead. The Thieves in Law, Brother's Circle as the USA government call them, wouldn't be happy either, I'd imagine. Unless he got their blessing. Christy tried to copy the Russian model of crime from the 90s. All these movements and countries he is running around in, the Russians have been there, doing these things, long before him.

    A lot of Russian billionaires are ex-mafia chiefs, and they went on to control financial sectors, huge companies from oil to coal, they bought lawmakers, judges and prosecutors.

    There was no law against being a mafia boss until Putin came along. Not out of any sense of justice, Putin wanted to just put the squeeze on them in a very criminal way. Tax them.

    He controlled who became a billionaire after that - for the purposes of controlling them and taking their loot. Prime example, Abramovich. Putin uses them to buy up property in other countries and pay off politicians/police/judges. Standard intelligence ****. A lot of these billionaires have been thrown out of windows sine the Ukraine war began after the international community started to cease their goods... Someone botched the posioning of Abramovich. Wonder what Putin did to him ...

    A lot of investigative journalists actually say that Putin (secretly) is the world's richest man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Spencer101


    Parole in England & Wales is not automatic after 50% of sentence. For sentences over 4 years (that are not life sentences) you can be paroled after 1/2 sentence. But you may not be paroled until you have done 2/3rds of sentence - which is at that point usually automatic. They do have more aggressive proceeds of crime laws eg Curtis Warren & Hatton garden gang doing extra time as they didn’t repay proceeds of crime. Parole in Ireland is usually after serving 66-75% of headline sentence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I didn't mean literally Sheriff St, but the area. The north east inner city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Tiffers93


    They aren't in Dubai anymore and I imagine it's due to this very thing. UAE are a lot more open to co-operation on these matter. A few of it's neighbours are MUCH more accomodating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Tiffers93




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 DJ Yallah


    ***wrong post***



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 DJ Yallah


    Not exactly true.

    Businesses involved in the sale of goods of high value where the trader accepts cash payments of €10k either in one transaction or a series of linked transactions are called High Value Goods Dealers and are subject to anti-money laundering laws not dissimilar to banks, estate agents, solicitors etc. The trader should be getting a copy of an ID when selling for >€10k cash and getting an explanation from the customer where they got the money.

    Car dealers and the likes of BT would obviously fall into this category.

    I don't know if a funeral provider would fall into this category as I suppose a funeral is a service and not a store of value that could be sold on again like a car or handbag.

    Also, a lot of European countries have existing limits on the max cash payments businessescan accept, possibly will be introduced EU-wide, maybe €10k or as low as €7k.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Popuptent


    must be a great life knowing one wrong move or someone cashes in on the 5 million x 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Spencer101


    It took the UAE 5/6/7 years to kick out Sanjay Shah who was recently extradited to Copenhagen. He’s accused of a huge fraud running into the billions. Until recently believed Kinahans were in UAE going into neighbouring countries from time to time. Shah’s extradition should underscore to them that everything comes to an end. Don’t know that they have ability to relocate anywhere. Zimbabwe made it clear they weren’t welcome. Can’t for a second see them going to Iran or Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭mikewebber


    They predictably end up banged up or dead

    The penguin will be the only one left soon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭notsocutehoor


    The Penguin is sadly one of the most threatened, being listed by Birdlife as being vulnerable and endangered. While the penguin has adapted well to his environment, human impact is hitting his home too hard and too fast for him to cope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Wonder how J.Dowdall is spending his days down in protective custody in Limerick city. Must be bleak knowing your appeal to reduce the sentence failed, you're thought by everyone as a rat and a number of gangs/organisations want a piece of you when you get out. The world is too small now even if you're in protective custody, all it takes is one individual on holiday somewhere with a camera phone and boom, the game is up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    All it says about dowdall’s career on wiki his that he founded a business in 2007. How did he make a crust?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Plumbing/electrical work, had 11/12 people working for him at one stage I believe, money was being heavily laundered through it though according to the rags



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    The corruption of police would be my biggest concern. Someone leaking your location for money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    It's funny how a Romanian guy was caught up in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Aren’t the German police closing in on Mitchell? He has been publically named by them as behind Encrochat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭portlaoisepal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Spencer101


    Figures were quoted on this board during trial. His lifestyle seemed to exceed what his business generated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Dowdall wore a balaclava when him and his father abducted and waterboarded Alexander Hurley in 2015. He got a serious bit of time for that. Nobody just starts wearing balaclavas and waterboarding people out of the blue. Other people videoed them doing it...

    Dowdall and Patsy Hutch were very, very close. Sisters and mothers worked together at a market stall. Family on both sides spent time in each other's houses. Patsy's van was insured under Dowdall's company. Dowdall talks about getting 5,000 loans off the Hutchs, now and again... like it was nothing... give me a break. I know they concocted a nice little fairytale in court of a blissful friendship between two working-class families helping each other down the market stalls.... but come on...

    If I'm a betting man, Dowdall was doing jobs, most of his life, for the Hutches that involved a balaclava now and again - and, for anyone else, who had the money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭fergiesfav


    I can't remember Dowdall ever being asked about the actual day of the Regency. You'd imagine the Hutchs would want as few involved as possible, so if Dowdall is booking rooms, why not driving car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Those heists he pulled off, several decades ago now, would have enriched Hutch personally to the tune of not very much at all in comparison to the vast sums Kinahan has amassed through drug dealing. Still, Gerry who claims to have no involvement in organised crime has managed to build an extensive business and property portfolio both at home and abroad despite having no visible means of support, let's call it. How did he manage that ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭fergiesfav


    Prices in the NIC would've been peanuts. Cleverly invested robberies in the early 80s would've went a long way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Pinoy adventure


    A lovely newish looking merc back up in the gaff the last few days.worth a pretty penny



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,673 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Back on topic please, plenty of time and space to discuss politics elsewhere



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Spencer101


    He’s a physically small man ? But know he was accused of shooting at his uncle’s house. The warrant to search his house in Cabra back in 2016 was on basis that he was an IRA member and explosives would be found then.



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