Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Not true. I posted two examples of people who were given a deportation order and continued to stay in direct provision until they were eventually given leave to remain. Also:

The 'Ireland is full' thing only comes into play if we are discussing available accommodation in 2024. But there are many other metrics that decide whether a country is 'full' or not : we have enough food, medicines, energy, natural resources, transport, finance, school places, job vacancies, hospital beds etc for our current population. If the country was literally full or even overpopulated, we would be on the verge of famine and disease, with all services at breaking point, like some disaster zone in the Third World.

You're just skimming over the accommodation metric then? By far and away the biggest factor in whether a country is full or not?

It’s bizarre to skim over by far the most important factor I.e accommodation or the lack thereof.

I do wonder what would happen to the general price of property if the govt. went ahead and built 100,000 homes - 3 and 4 bed semis maybe. Too a good standard and not in Dublin. How about 100,000 spread equally between Sligo, Tralee, Waterford, Cork and Letterkenny. All council houses, all for rent to people on the housing lists and none of them for sale to tenants down the line? All within 5 years? Snowballs chance in hell of it happening! I picked those spots at random. The govt. has had decades to build actual properties. Is it access to land banks? Cash for building? Resistance from land owners? That field has been in our family since god was a boy! We ain't sellin! Great, have you done anything useful with it in the past 5 years? No? Well in that case that field is going to be used for social housing, here's a tenner good luck. Will that happen? No. Why? Coz the shriek from the country will be, It's my field! I ain't sellin!

Great, we'll add the 60,000 to the 100,000. Given that ultimately all the land in the country belongs to the State and the State belongs to society. The good of society has to trump the individual landowner. Gee, we are in the 19th century again. Who's up for reforming the Land League?

It will take a long long time unless they actually start doing it 🙄

Ah, ok yes, I stand corrected. They can obviously stay while awaiting deportation.

Thanks 👍

This is what's happening out there nowadays, guy approaches owners of disused property buys it up flips it and doubles the price selling on to one of the housing associations/charities loads of 💶💶 to be made

Another one ready to go in Tuam👇

Same director in all those companies, another one here in Dublin, it's the new klondike, stashes of 💶💶💶💶 to be made

The whole charity/ngo sector needs a good shaking up, far too many of em intersecting all over the place guarding their patches, follow the money.. There's a club there and we (the regular 9 to 5 taxpayer) aren't in it, and I can't see it changing anytime soon

Already agreed, system needs to be overhauled, streamlined and quickened, significantly.

Not much point in complaining about current system, and not look for change

This is just fanciful delusional stuff. How can you & others seriously support expanding the population with migrants at the growing rates we see?

It's all very well to be altruistic but one of the principal objections local communities and society in general has, is that of housing and a whole range of public services coming under pressure. In other words, this is increasingly affecting the average Irish citizen.

There is nothing in the history of the state over the past five decades that would suggest it will or can rapidly expand these needs and services and deliver what people reasonably expect. It'd delusional to think so and misleading to argue on the basis that these will follow.

One of the first principles of being Green is Reduce. Reduce consumption, reduce needs. Reduce population. And we're all supposed to be Greener nowadays, aren't we?? We don't need 15,000+ asylum seekers rocking up each year.

And why do you think the state will ignore it's international obligations and it's own laws and stop taking in refugees and asylum seekers?

It's the same old same old answer from others, at least I come up with solutions

What international obligations to take in asylum seekers?