General Star Trek thread

eadrom · 21-12-2023 10:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121521652#Comment_121521652

It does feel a lot like wtf, they've been capable of Andor this whole time and we've been getting... feckin' Book of Bobba Fett?!

I mean, I don't mind Bobba Fett or Mando or whoever. It's kinda fun but... nah, not if you can do Andor! Do Andor all the time!! JFC.

breezy1985 · 21-12-2023 10:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524236#Comment_121524236

Bobba Fett and Mando are two very different levels.

I would put Mando up with SNW as fun but a bit throwaway but Fett is horrid shte.

pixelburp · 21-12-2023 11:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524375#Comment_121524375

Ha. Speaking of shows whose premise got worn out quickly and is now treading water: Mando was good enough for about 1 to 1.5 seasons, but when Luke Skywalker showed up it was the precise moment the show jet-skied over the shark and did somersaults. Season 3 was just utterly horrendous, and increaisngly just feels like a show whose raison d'etre finished the moment Baby Yoda had a reason to leave.

Star Wars and Doctor Who both fizzled out for me these last few years; thank goodness Trek's still doing ok (just about, David Zaslav hovering in the background notwithstanding)

eadrom · 22-12-2023 04:26PM

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Nah, I think SNW is a lot better than Mando. And actually, SNW isn't perfect but I felt the same when it came along in comparison to Discovery, the JJ films, and anything else that has come out the recent years previous. Like finally - it's Star Trek! Somebody actually understood.

Whereas Mando is a dumb fun show with familiar stylings but it's nothing like what I ever found interesting about Star Wars.

corkie · 22-12-2023 08:33PM

Just a Matter of Time (1978)

John de Lancie in The Six Million Dollar Man (1974)

A young man in that show.

corkie · 24-12-2023 11:48PM

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-renaissance-awards-show/

The Live Long and Prosper Awards (LLAPys) is a franchise-wide award celebration voted on by the fans.

flazio · 25-12-2023 03:15PM

Happy Christmas fellow Trekies. Season 1 of Star Trek Prodigy is added to Netflix today.

Rawr · 25-12-2023 03:39PM

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«After decades of being ignored by the Emmys and Golden Globes?»

Didn’t a load of TNG episodes get nominated for Emmys and in some cases actually win them?

Edit: Holy crap it won a load of them too (Including *Season 1* episodes people! FFS!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Star_Trek%3A_The_Next_Generation?wprov=sfti1

Getting more than a little annoyed with click-bait titles mired in fiction like that.

Look, also DS9 won some Emmys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Star_Trek%3A_Deep_Space_Nine?wprov=sfti1

Hell, even Voyager:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Star_Trek%3A_Voyager?wprov=sfti1

Even *Discovery* got some (Discovery?!):

https://www.emmys.com/shows/star-trek-discovery

Ignored by the Emmys?!

Stark · 25-12-2023 04:21PM

It seems the worse the episode was, the more likely it was to win an Emmy (DS9 ones excepted).

Evade · 25-12-2023 07:53PM

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I think the issue is the wins are in technical categories like sound design or make-up and not the more prestigious categories like acting or writing.

AMKC · 27-12-2023 04:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121520282#Comment_121520282

My brother said they were in merger talks to me and honestly had not heard a single thing or seen anything about it untill now. It could have its positives and its negatives I suppose. I can of would like it to happen if it was good for Star Trek but also worry that it could be bad for Star Trek and it could end up like the Star Wars film franchise now in limbo or worse yet like it was itself after Enterprise in Limbo.

pixelburp · 27-12-2023 05:26PM

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It could have its positives and its negatives

No. Cos whatever about the specifics of a Warner controlled Trek, corporate mergers and the dissolution of competition is NOT and never a net positive. Culturally speaking the shrinking of Hollywood's major studios into less than a handful is, culturally, the hastening of pop culture becoming ossified if not outright moribund. Disney swallowing Fox was certainly not a good thing either.

flazio · 27-12-2023 05:52PM

Well if the rest of Fox were anything like their "news" channel. No big loss.

pixelburp · 27-12-2023 07:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121541072#Comment_121541072

Open to correction but Fox News was and remains its own corporation; the entertainment wing was 20th Century Fox - which is what Disney acquired - so not exactly some random nobody.

Stark · 27-12-2023 10:20PM

20th century Fox produced a lot of quality stuff in its day. I remember that logo being nearly ubiquitous on movies/TV shows growing up.

TheValeyard · 28-12-2023 01:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121541921#Comment_121541921

Yeah they have made plenty of Oscar winning classics and famous blockbusters. They were no joke of a company.

ItHurtsWhenIP · 30-12-2023 09:19PM

I got a big giggle out of this one! 😁😅🤣

AMKC · 01-01-2024 11:20AM

Happy New Year to all trekkies and trekkers in here. Hopefully this is a good year for Star Trek and I predict a new movie in the next 5 years sometime.

TheValeyard · 02-01-2024 02:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556507#Comment_121556507

We shall see

breezy1985 · 02-01-2024 02:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121561305#Comment_121561305

Tiocfaidh ár Lore.

I bet 2024 sounded so futuristic when they wrote that.

AMKC · 02-01-2024 03:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121561459#Comment_121561459

Yes it would have been great if it had of happened but I would say its at least another decade away from happening if it ever does.

Evade · 02-01-2024 05:45PM

The added context of that clip was it was an example of terrorist achieving their goals. I think the relative peace for the last 25 years is a good tradeoff.

NI being the economic black hole it is I don't see reunification happening ever.

pixelburp · 02-01-2024 05:52PM

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Speaks to where the mindset was though - and perhaps the resting American attitudes. Quite something for the writer to essentially validate the IRA's campaign through a bit of SciFi. It wouldn't have been that far removed from their attempted assassination of Thatcher after all.

2024 though, ha. Wasn't the first time Trek really whiffed its attempts at near future productions. Cough cough Eugenics Wars n all that (least SNW tried to openly address that constant problem).

Evade · 02-01-2024 06:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121562440#Comment_121562440

There was still quite a lot of Irish-American support tor the IRA in the 90s. But from what I remember of the episode the crew decried the tactics as ineffective and Data chimed in with an instance of it working.

breezy1985 · 02-01-2024 08:20PM

They could have just pointed to the actual successful IRA campaign of 1919/21 but I assume they wanted to sound "futurey"

corkie · 02-01-2024 08:50PM

@pixelburp 2024 though, ha. Wasn't the first time Trek really whiffed its attempts at near future productions. Cough cough Eugenics Wars n all that (least SNW tried to openly address that constant problem).

They really can not use the excuse of the 'TCW' to change the date here, Irish politics surely would not have an effect on global issues?

AMKC · 02-01-2024 09:22PM

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"wouldn't have been that far removed from their attempted assassination of Thatcher after all."

If the IRA had of succeeded in Killing Thatcher you would have to wonder what way would the UK have gone? Would they have just pulled out and left Northern Ireland to Dublin or would they have started to Bomb Ireland like Russia has on Ukraine?

I am sure in some Alternate Universe both of them things have happened depending on who takes over from Thatcher in there respective Universes and maybe in others there was no Thatcher but someone else so they would all be different too.

Here do we got the one where it almost happened but did not and maybe we are lucky because of that.

Evade · 02-01-2024 09:37PM

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Depending on who you ask that's still a failure because Northern Ireland is still part of Britain.

ItHurtsWhenIP · 03-01-2024 01:30AM

@AMKC If the IRA had of succeeded in Killing Thatcher you would have to wonder what way would the UK have gone? Would they have just pulled out and left Northern Ireland to Dublin or would they have started to Bomb Ireland like Russia has on Ukraine?

That could be an interesting thought experiment. While she landed a huge win in the 83 election after the Falklands when she was very popular, the assassination attempt occurred about half way through the coal miner strikes of 84-85, so there was a lot of ill-will towards Maggie, particularly in the working class. But as I recall, she gained a lot of sympathy for her measured response to the attempt.

If she had been killed then, would there have been a "discarding" of NI to the Republic by GB? I doubt it, as we couldn't rub two shillings together back then. My first time across the border on an "unapproved road", was in 1985 and the main thing I noticed was that there were no potholes on the other side. 😏

I would say that more likely would have been a crackdown on Irish people in the UK. It was bad enough as it was. Some people I knew (good, respectable people), particularly working in London in the mid-late 80's and 90's used to get frequent attention of the police ... quite similar to how POC get attention in the US these days. So that would have been much more likely, I think.

TaurenDruid · 03-01-2024 03:57PM

I see Star Trek: Infinite is included in the Steam winter sale, which ends tomorrow. Anyone played it? Worth picking up, or is it just a marketing cash-in with a Star Trek skin and nothing else?

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