Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

I know a person who left because he couldn't find anywhere to live and moaned about people arriving and getting housed.

So you can remove your doubt because that's one person.

Considering thousands left I doubt he is the only person.

I would imagine a huge drop in the numbers seeking asylum here.

That's what happened in the last recession and numerous EU citizens returned to their own countries.

My brother and best friend both moved to the other side of the world.

Many of my friends from school emigrated long ago.

Most of them have made very happy lives in those places and will never come back. Just because I'm not in here crying about those losses, doesn't give you the right to criticise me personally. I'm not on here looking for emotional arguments. I state facts.

Emigration is part of the Irish culture and always has been. At least I'm not blaming foreigners for my people emigrating.

Treason eh? Fascinating.

I haven't read any of this stuff in years,

but I thought I'd have a gander at that. I especially like the fact that Ukraine released a commemorative stamp in honour of the 60th anniversary of the Convention.

Given that Ukraine have started the long process towards membership of the European Union. It is to my mind anyway, only right and proper to support Ukranian citizens. The above document provides protections for citizens. I gave it a quick skim and art. 16 jumped out at me. EU citizens cannot be treated by other member states of the Union as foreigners. Granted it'll be a while before Ukraine fully joins the EU but that is the direction of travel.

Treasonous indeed lol

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You asked for evidence of above

I posted the link to the radio show where the hotelier states what her UKR guests tell her about the situ (iirc) 'that they are reluctant to work because they may lose their benefits'. Again, iirc, she also states that the Govt paid too much in the first place and she's dead right - I'd say that, had the Govt paid similar to other EU countries, Ireland would have possibly between 20-30k max Ukrainians here. Imagine the reduction in the pressure on the country that sort of figure would have given not to mention the financial savings

I already posted the numbers (pg 169) regarding the secondary arrivals from other safe EU countries and what the failure do deal with this problem may have cost the country.

Contrary to what a few posters here think, this thread (afaiac), is not a meeting of the Irish branch of the KKK, but more a discussion on this disastrous and mind-numbingly incompetent government - A mickey mouse government that have made us the laughing stock of Europe, if not the world

There's a whole generation of people currently being forced out of their own country at present and your response was "I can think of only one who didn't really want to emigrate.........Every other person I have seen emigrate in the last 40 years, went very happily".

But not "all Irish people" because, of course, you met one in forty years who didn't want to go.

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Emigration is part of Irish culture and you should know as you ….. lived in Muslim country LOL

What's so funny about that? Have you never lived outside of Ireland?

Which highlights the nature of their asylum seeking, purely economic in many cases.

We have a humanitarian responsibility to those fleeing war or persecution, we don't have a responsibility to offer an opportunity to make a few quid and run for it when the going gets tough to people gaming the system. Their opportunism damages the provisions we can make for genuine people seeking refuge on humanitarian grounds.

18 thanks to this waffle. That's telling. Such black and white mentality.

I have kids, define me. Thrill me with your acumen.

Our justice system really needs to crush this lawless anarchy

Emigration has only been part of Irish culture because of a failure of our government (and our former colonial overlords) to make the country as good as it could be for Irish people.The vast majority of people who have to emigrate never actually wanted to emigrate.Emigration being part of Irish culture is not a good thing for the vast majority of people who have emigrated. Wouldn't it be better than instead of emigration being seen as being part of Irish culture we decided as a country to make the country as good as possible for Irish people so they never have to consider emigrating because things are too tough for them here.

Just who are the real 'far right' / 'fascists' - choose your term?

So you agree the government have handled the influx of refugees rather badly but you don't want government to change their policy any way ?

Genuine question

How might it do that? Arson like this is near impossible to prove and almost certainly will require witness testimony.

I'd be shocked if any of the cases so far get within an asses roar of a court