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Lol....

I'd take his extensive military career over a boardies rant.

Have they received 1 million rounds of artillery as promised.

No they the EU have publicly stated that they won't achieve it .

They got 6 out out of 31 promised Abrams being seen in a handful of propaganda videos but not actually on the battlefield,

They have not received any F16s yet sometime in 2024 probably the the first quarter if they satisfy all the requirements set out for them to receive them,

They wanted 260 F16s and they will get 18 ..

Unfortunately none of which changes what's happening on the ground, Russian artillery is still raining on Ukrainian positions despite the Russians definitely having no ammunition,no Guns no Barrels,no men ,no money,

Sean Bell is saying what alot of experienced military analysts are saying if things don't dramatically change on the ground there is only so much the Ukrainians can do .

Maybe you could give us an alternative view to what exactly is happening on the ground in Ukraine

Swing and a miss. Congrats. You missed the entire point.

I was saying that Sean even disagrees with much of the shite that you yourself have posted in the past. So you're discrediting yourself by agreeing with him.

"Lol" indeed.

As a matter of fact. I had gotten quite a few replies to my X posts along the lines of " Stupid US scum, I'm coming for you!!!" with pretty lurid descriptions about what they planned to do with me.... LOL.So much for freedom of speech in Musks world.

Pretty enormous edit there. Could almost be described as a bit of a "rant" eh? 🙂

Then you disagree with Sean. Which is the original point I was making. Throughout the interview I posted there he was saying that Ukraine "DID RECEIVE LOADS and LOADS" everything they needed and asked for the for the counter offensive and it didn't reach its goals. "So how much more will they need"..... Sorry Sean... they didn't receive it and what they did receive was late.

You'd think an air marshal would understand the need for modern aircraft in an offensive. His only area of expertise. But when asked about it he waffles on about NATO airpower being great and that even if Ukraine received 100 f16s sitting in Zelenskys front yard they don't have the training and Russia would get rid of them quickly(despite the fact that Russia has been unable to get rid of ANYTHING but their own men quickly this whole war)...... And then moves on to say that Ukraine have been given everything they need........ Like what the actual f*ck is he on about? You don't need to be an air marshal to see that he's making no sense here.

Sean also has a lovely habit of bringing up that Russia has a legitimate claim to Crimea. Does Sean get to be credentialed on this awful point because he used to fly a plane?

I haven't actually made any issue with what Sean is saying is currently happening on the ground. I was simply pointing out facts that are known. Ukraines armor was hammered by Ka-52s and the ATACMS strike cutting up the airfields was too late. They were supplied with no real means to breach extensive minefields in scale. They were not going to be receiving modern jets in time to cover their troop movements. The tank decision came too late and was less than 20% of what Ukraine asked for.

I then brought up Seans constant mantra in the past of Russia=Big, Ukraine=Small we need a negotiated peace. Even as Russia was slaughtering civilians wholesale and flattening cities. Putting aside the moral component. In what way can a negotiation be made with someone who's primary defining feature is breaking agreements and lying?

You'd want to be monumentally stupid to think any agreement with Putin can be trusted. Which Sean Bell is.

Looks like marinka was lost to the Russians on Christmas day ,Valerii Zaluzhnyi had mentioned it on Christmas Eve about not willing to risk valuable defenders for runined cities and towns, where in bakmuth they wouldn't withdraw they seem to be more willing to withdraw to better defensive positions,

Probably explains the spectacular attack on Crimea to mitigate the loss of marinka

????? What on earth are you on about? I genuinely don't understand how you come up with half the stuff you do.

• Ukraine use a stormshadow/s most likely, to take out a Russian landing craft worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
• A type of attack which Ukraine has past form for.
• An attack on vessel which was clearly in service of the Russian military as that fireball could most easily be explained by the thing being filled to the brim with munitions of some sort.

And you think that's not justification enough? That Ukraine would throw away stormshadows out of spite over losing a pile of rubble with a pre war population of 10k? Like honestly? Lord above🙄

It would be truer to say that Russian forces now stand on the piece of earth where Marinka used to be. The town isn't really there anymore, and is a collection of smouldering ruins completely devoid of a civilian population who had been evacuated a long time ago.

It seems to be Russia's main method of taking ground, not by speed or surprise, but just by relentlessly pounding areas with artillery until the strategic value the places held dwindles down to zero. Smashing towns off the face of the earth is quite symbolic of Russia's attitude to Ukraine, which is that if Ukraine is not willing to be a loyal Russian vassal, then it essentially has no right to exist, and every physical and psychological marker of what it is to be Ukrainian must be eliminated.

If Ukraine had expended as many men and materials in the taking of somewhere like Marinka, and taken as long to do it, critics would say it was a fool's errand, but when Russia does it, I rarely see the same people pointing out the poor cost/benefit ratio.

Taking the whole of the Donbass region is doable for Russia, but they obviously want to do a whole lot more than that, but given how Russia has apparently been forced to fight this war so far, and their complete inability to establish air superiority, even in the early days of the war, I don't really see where the great mobility is going to come from in order to take large swathes of ground.

@Gatling "What's a Vatnik"

Vatnik (Russian: ватник) is a political pejorative[1][2] used in Russia and other post-Soviet states for steadfast jingoistic followers of propaganda from the Russian government.[3]

The use of the word originates from an Internet meme first spread by Anton Chadskiy on VKontakte in 2011, and later used in Russia, Ukraine, then in other post-Soviet states. Its meaning refers to the original cartoon, which depicts a character made from the material of a padded cotton wool jacket and bearing a black eye, which is used to disparage someone as a blindly patriotic and unintelligent jingoist who pushes the conventional views presented in Russian government media as well as those of Russian web brigades.[4][5] The name "Vatnik" derives from the cotton wool jacket (Telogreika) that Chadskiy's cartoon character in the meme is made from.

Vatnik - Wikipedia

https://ukranews.com/en/news/974671-ukraine-will-receive-eur-20-billion-from-eu-bypassing-orban-ft

A nice chunk of change that Putin's toad can't vote against. Maybe the aid won't dry up afterall?

Now you're just trolling. Almost 40k post in total, an active user in a "Russia" thread, and you don't know what vatnik is? Give me a break...

They've only built a few of them, including prototypes, so I doubt we'll find out any time soon.

Another wonderwaffen ,

If they have several hundred or several thousand available they could cause serious problems,you might get the odd one in a propaganda video at some stage

True be like those terminator tanks.

"I think that it is now too late..."

Your post very much implies somehow time is on putin's side. Just some of the headlines I have read today spell out how Ukraine is settling in for a long term fight against putin's forces occupying its territory. The daily address from Zelenskyy explains how he expects the indigenous war industry in Ukraine will become one of the top ten arms producers in the world. Another article pointed out how they plan to start their own mass production of 155mm artillery shells next year after already having prototypes in testing and are already producing lots of the other ammunition in use by their armed forces themselves.

The drones they home produce for the fight against putin's troops and equipment are also widely respected and proving effective on the battlefield. The game changer they need to defeat putin's army may not be one they import from another country but something they develop themselves (or more likely a number of things they develop themselves with support of their allies) and while economic aid to Ukraine may have had some recent delays, none of their allies have said anything about moving away from the long term support they have pledged to Ukraine for as long as it takes to defeat putin and his criminal empire building dreams. Only the most delusional pro putin puppet could paint what is happening to putin's forces in Ukraine as any type of victory.

Lots of speculation over the last few days of what type of weapon took down a number of putin's attack aircraft but another option is also reported to be active in Ukraine's air defense and it demonstrates why Ukraine will win. They know what putin's forces have that needs to be defeated and will find the answers:

You would think when they get them, they would do a high value target somewhere for their 1st mission. Something for moral and a look here we told you all along we could use them and use them in the best way possible. Send us more of them as we can do serious things with them.