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Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Has there been a bunch of reports of him being a hassle to work with?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,074 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah, a whole bunch of bits came out after this case was made public.

    It seems he's just a very very intense guy, and when he sees things that are what he would consider to be less than perfect that he can lash out instead of communicating more professionally. Seems a bit of a history of "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole" type behaviour on set and in university. You just really don't ever want your actors getting involved with stuff like that with crew... that's for the director, and even more-so the AD, to deal with.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    He just comes across as a totally nasty piece of work and there are plenty of that kind in all work places all over the world and being an artist trying to find their character doesn't excuse it in anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Thanks. Seems to really have walked the line on set to date.

    Allegedly crossed it a few times but nothing to the extent where it overshadowed his talent and he'd lose work (evidenced by the opportunities he was getting). Sounds like the sort of thing that had the potential to have gotten worse if he became more successful, now I presume the court case and media blow up, including that article, will have him changing his tune if he makes a comeback.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,035 ✭✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Will probably pass, only cos Echo didn't interest me that much as a character I'd wanna watch a whole series about her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    That video of JM running away and the lady chasing him is just bizarre. Both of them are grown ass adults and carrying on like children, and then all that talk of being a great man, it’s laughable. He’s a man child.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,351 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Jonathan Majors. Gets out of the car and starts running through the streets. Did you see the clip?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,351 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    I did not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,486 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The issue is theres so many wildly inconsistent shows being spat out it makes it hard to keep track of which ones are required to watch x movie.

    If they had one show feeding characters into the MCU then it wouldn't be as confused as it currently is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also, the anthology style shows are the most rewatchable. That What If show can effectively be watched standalone and everyone can dip into what interests them. The other Disney shows felt like a huge build up to something that fails to deliver by the end of the season cause it's a setup for another movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    It is absolutely an issue but AoS is worse. For the first few years it was 20+ episodes a season.

    For all the faults of the current shows, they are much more digestible, especially if you just want to dive in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Can you give a few examples of your last sentence?

    To me basically each season closed off as much as most shows do, like AoS for example. Yes, not everything is tied up but that is completely normal for a TV, as they are setting up the next season - with MCU shows it might be a new season or a movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    I posted it earlier. He starts trying to get away from her after he walks her to the sidewalk at around 50 seconds in and then she runs after him for several blocks (she testified she only walked after him while under oath, even after being shown the video). There's really more evidence that she was the aggressor than him.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,351 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    thats bizarre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    With all the cameos likely in Deadpool 3 it had me wondering will Channing Tatum finally get to play Gambit on the big screen even for a couple scenes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,486 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Be more surprised if he isnt as I think Tatum and Reynolds are friends IRL so cant see Reynolds missing the opportunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Wandavision being the worst payoff as season's ends go. Instead of an interesting closing act, you had a setup for what ended up key to the Dr Strange movie. So that's probably the greatest offender imho. Falcon felt like more a general setup and retention of Walker, on off chance he's useful to have later on.


    Meanwhile I had mixed feelings on the Netflix TV shows but their overall quality was far superior in terms of just being their own thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Wandavision closed out the way most seasons of TV shows do by closing out the Westview story.

    What difference does it make that it led into a movie rather than another season of a TV show?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    If you're watching a TV show, then a setup for a next season is fine. However it's not necessarily a great scenario for an audience who will happily watch a movie but have no interest in an associated TV show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It meant Wandavision was required watching prior to Doctor Strange 2, anyone who was only interested in the films would have been very confused about Wandas actions without it.

    And there are a lot of people who have no interest in putting in the time to watch every piece of Marvel entertainment so they can enjoy the films. Disney looks to have learned this though when they said TV shows will be largely separate in future.

    The great thing about the infinity saga was you could generally enjoy the films in isolation or as part of a larger story, whichever the viewer was interested in. Since that finished and the Disney TV shows started they’ve prioritised having their films set something up rather than be their own thing(with the notable exception of GOTG3, by far the best Marvel film of recent years).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    I completely understand the complaint about having to watch a show before a movie.

    Your point I was disagreeing with is this

    The other Disney shows felt like a huge build up to something that fails to deliver by the end of the season cause it's a setup for another movie.

    The Disney shows have only left open as much as the majority of TV shows that know they have another season coming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    The great thing about the infinity saga was you could generally enjoy the films in isolation or as part of a larger story, whichever the viewer was interested in.

    I don't understand this, especially the bold. I see very little difference from then and now when it comes to enjoying the movies post Endgame if you've missed something. If you skipped a movie you weren't going to understand everything, especially details of a character arc. For example, if you missed Winter Soldier you weren't going to 'get' a lot of the background in Civil War. Marvel have always done a good job in filling gaps and continue to.

    The biggest difference is that those who are now skipping shows never skipped movies, so are getting their first taste of what a sizeable proportion of the general public have felt over the years and are being far more vocal about it. The general public understand that if they haven't seen everything they're going to not get everything so rarely complained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It's funny 'cos a repeated frustration with Agents of SHIELD was how crudely and bluntly it avoided any hard link with the MCU - but then the opposite approach doesn't quite work either. Seems like when it comes to media crossover, it's best as a one directional movement, with television informed by the movies, but not vice-versa?

    The MCU has spread itself too thin, too ad-hoc and slightly presumptuous of its audience, and the reported rejigging hard evidence that even Marvel knows this as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,417 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    They are in no-mans land now. They made just keeping up with everything too much hard work even for the small core comic book fans. Total overload. For casual audiences it's a disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,755 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    In defence of Marvel Studios, it looks like Wonka will struggle in the box office even after very good reviews.

    I don't think there's any easy solution for what's happening. The cinema going audience is at a level of unheard of unpredictability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Pure casuals have never had that issue and still don't, as can be seen by the box office performance of the tentpole movies before and after Endgame.

    The format of using Disney+ is a disaster for the group who used to go to all the movies but now are experiencing not being in the know for the first time and are bailing (lets call them former fanboys). That is the floor that has totally fallen out there and we see the results in the last two movies when there weren't Tier 1 characters.

    We'll likely see a huge bounce back for Deadpool again next year, where the casuals and former fanboys come out of the woodwork for Tier 1 character and won't care what they do or don't 'get'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wonka was always a hard sell though IMO: it's a generational IP whose appeal I'd not have said was so strong it could support a big prequel film.

    Conversely, 5 Nights At Freddie's, despite a critical planning, has earned Megabucks - made all the more mega by the slim budget it had. The new Godzilla was made for 15 million. There are no easy solutions but a good start would be Disney fixing those out of control budgets.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Sounds like Majors found not guilty of the more serious charges and guilty of the lesser ones.

    Seems like his lawyer's approach of trying for a homerun has backfired.



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