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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The Reddit poster had confused him for me. Similar story and timeline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,361 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    are you sure you're not posting from Valhalla or wherever you soldiers go?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    It'll be great news as they will have driven RuZZia off and be able to safely run their country. Thanks for bringing it up, tovarisch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Living in your neck of the woods too oddly enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Paddigol




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    It was a general comment only in the context of the last couple of years. From a relatively slow-and-stead growth for 40 plus years the EU has expanded rapidly in the last 15/20 years in fairness - the bulk of them being former Soviet States IIRC. Agree with the rest of your points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    So that’s a billion raised in a day by Zelensky, the guy is a legend


    Now imagine if Ireland was attacked our charismatic dear leader would have been “negotiating” which quarter of the country to give up in under three days, thinking the Russians still are “good socialists” like the olden Soviet days of his youth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    If we were attacked the world would recoil in horror. Our ex pats and generational ancestors abroad would leap to our defence regardless of any narrative. Real patriotism isn't something you need to keep lit it's something that awakens in time of dire need.

    Zelensky fair play to him he's a great wartime leader. let's hope he's a better one when they kick the russian dirt from their door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    I would hope (granted its a far fetched scenario in first place, but so was Russia invading Ukraine once upon a time) that others would come to our rescue (since we have next to nonexistent defences) but that might be little consolation to the dead and raped and kidnapped

    More than likely the republicans would find a way to drag their feet because “dem Irish sodomoties abandoned god and embraced abortion on their democratic liberal path” or something daft like that, while the French tut tut about our taxes, maybe the Brits might help since they still attached to us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭JimmyChew


    I knew I recognized the name, very sad to hear it. I read his book a number of years back on hi experiences in Iraq with the USMC. I recommend it to anyone with an interest in Military/combat.

    The Green Marine: An Irishman's war in Iraq.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    And it's only gonna get worse: obviously I don't want a fragmented Russia at war with itself but I really can't see where succession occurs and the country remains stable.

    Say what you will about North Korea but their dynastic structure and encircled wagons does kinda ensure continuity of rule. Doesn't seem like you got any potential generals eyeing the throne. Whither that when Putin dies?

    I have worried that the worst outcome is the wounded-ego of a Russian (ethno) nationalist getting the top seat and suddenly Putin felt like the better choice; if outlying regions smell weakness the nationalist might deploy what was left of Russia's power as a flex.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    It wasn't far fetched to anyone working in the military or anyone with an ounce of awareness in foreign affairs, it was an escalation of the 2014 invasion. I wasn't aware of it I'll hold my hand up.

    Nah I don't think so. Like I said, I think regardless of what the narrative(lies) an aggressor pedals, our existence if it were threatened would strike to the heart of anyone even remotely that thinks themselves of Irish. We have a ridiculous amount of 1st, 2nd and 3rd cousins in the USA and everywhere that consider themselves as Irish. So I believe we are regime proof no matter who is charge. We are President makers in USA never forget that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Field east


    Where does one start having read through all those comments - I’ll have a shot of what was going through my head

    (1) Irish people are very respectful towards the bereaved as a mark of respect and secondly we are very mindful of those family members / friends left behind. They are going through enough pain/ grief without adding to it. So those that had not a good word to say about this person was A MASSIVE SLIP OF THEIR MASKS - so more than likely most of them were not Irish even though they might live in Ireland and within walking / if not crawling distance from the Russian Embassy.

    (2) I doubt if there is any country in the world - re your typical individual- would make such comments . Exceptions may include serial pediophiles, serial drug vendors, serial criminals/ murderers. So this group have TOTALLY EXPOSED THEMSELVES

    (3) was he not free to do what he wanted as long as he is not breaking the law. Imagine if a Russian soldier/ private citizen deflected to the UKR side and helped out the army in some capacity , God only knows what would happen to him if caught by the Ru army


    in a word - or two- I found most of the comments ABSOLUTLY DISCUSTING



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The way things are in the USA these days, I doubt my American relatives' resolve. So many Trumplodytes all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭yagan


    Off topic but on the whole Irish US thing I reckon there's more a desire to believe we're special when in reality most in the US are indifferent, their Irishness being more an immigrant marker amongst many.

    If Biden truly valued his origin story there's no way he'd have pledged iron clad support for Israel's genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Field east


    It might not be a bad idea if the Russians started to fight amongst themselves - even for 100 years if it kept them fully occupied and left everyone else alone. In the meantime the rest of the world can organise themselves so that Ru - when its internal revolution is over- would not even dream of attacking anyone again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    Who can we send in on a sealed armoured train again to Russia to stir **** up and kick things off 😏

    Perhaps offer one way tickets to a few of our own homegrown eejits on the same train to experience the glory (holes) of Fatherland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Yeah, but do you really want an "internal revolution" in a country with nukes? What happens if one side decides to nuke the other?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    But that's the problem: dollars for donuts it won't just be Russia and whether it's internal regions like Chechnya or satellite countries around the old USSR sphere; and if the missiles get lobbed between rival factions, we could see yet another migrant and supply-chain crisis as those areas crumble. I just can't imagine a scenario where it's neat and concentrated - and as @Timberrrrrrrr there's the extra wrinkle of this being a country with (supposedly functioning) nuclear weapons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Quote:- " it could have a meaningful position with significant power in the future. Instead it chooses to be an outlier." Unquote.

    And that says it all! It does not matter one-bit what resources natural or otherwise Russia currently has, while it's under the control of a criminal and his gang. It's not going anywhere except through terrorism, and that will come to an end, sooner or later.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    Lets go with this scenario, let’s say Governor Madsky from Backarsian Siberian Republic declares independence and cuts the only railway line that what remains of Russian military would need to use (after having to disengage from Ukraine), also all the southern republics go mad at same time smelling opportunity

    There are various armed groups running around Moscow killing each other in gang warfare on steroids

    Do you think some Russian general or Putin will sign off on nuking a part of what he claims as Russia?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    If it is, the good news is that Valhalla (or Sto'Vo'Kor) has an internet connection and trains, and I like trains, but the bad news is that living in Valhalla also means that you end up waiting for an extra half hour for the delayed Northbound Texas Eagle in the rain... (Which I am currently doing)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Not really. From a tactical point of view a large hostile force in Ireland is a massive weakness for the US, Britain and France. The US as it can be used to disrupt transatlantic shipping and stop their protection from the European side (see issues around treaty ports in ww2, the UK nearly invaded us over it). The other 2 as it is a great place to invade either and neither wants to fight in that direction.



    I am not a big believer in anyone defending us out of general niceness. However a lot of alliances and defense treaties are about tactical advantages. The UK did not spring to Belgium's aid in ww1 out of kind heartedness. They did it because Germany taking over Belgium risked the UK's naval superiority at the time.


    Obviously any press statements would be about defending Ireland and cos we are so nice defending them etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    Belgium lost 2% of their population in WW1 (British empire 0.3%) that be like Galway being wiped off the map

    I prefer we spend a bit more on our defence, join NATO, and not endup like Belgium did if someone daft like Putin starts WW3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Let's say Putin is gone, Russia fragments into several smaller states, what's to stop 2 of those states going to war and lobbing nukes?


    Putin is mental but what if someone even crazier takes over one if those states and decides he has to wipe out the neighbours over some small insult?


    WW1 started because Archeduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated so yes it could easily happen again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I read it a while back ,his tour in Iraq caused him a great deal of issues he really struggled with PTSD after it ,by all accounts he didn't go to Ukraine to fight at first



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    Theres a difference between Russians lobbing nukes at their own people within 1991 borders of Russia

    And someone in Russia (or what remains of Russia) lobbing nukes at their neighbours or farther afield

    I asked about the first scenario in case of civil war

    As for the second scenario how is that any different to almost daily nuclear sabre rattling they do now? If anything the response be swifter as there be smaller chunk of Russia that would need to be turned into a glass parking lot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Do you think nuclear fallout stops at borders?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    So you do think in a civil war Russians will nuke Russians?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,719 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I just want Hungary kicked out of the EU, does anyone know what is involved in this?



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