Russia - threadbanned users in OP

IdHidden · 13-12-2023 02:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489074#Comment_121489074

Russian money is flowing into any organisation that can cause trouble, especially in any EU country. Their bots are posting everywhere they can including here trying to win the influence war.

IdHidden · 13-12-2023 02:09AM

Russia is an underdeveloped kleptocracy. Italy has a bigger (by $400 billion) economy than Russia, and is less corrupt, and has better technology. Brazil has a bigger population without the demography timebomb that an aging Russia has. Russians make up 1.8% of the world population, while China makes up 17.5%, and the Chinese economy is 10 times bigger than Russia's. There is no future world where Russia is powerful. Putin's imperialist war has just hastened its decline.

saabsaab · 13-12-2023 02:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489408#Comment_121489408

Last sting of a dying wasp?

astrofool · 13-12-2023 08:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488526#Comment_121488526

There it is:

If plans aren't put in place to get all the refugees home, it won't matter, Ukraine will be an empty shell.

You really don't help yourself sometimes.

Danzy · 13-12-2023 08:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489548#Comment_121489548

It's the truth though FFS.

About quarter of their population are now abroad,mostly women and children.

Add In family reunification, no society can survive that population loss.

Why do you imagine they would.

Are you coming at this from what only benefits the Kremlin?

machiavellianme · 13-12-2023 08:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489408#Comment_121489408

Nonsense, it is the largest federation on earth with significant reserves of natural resources. If it gave up its luddite claims of strong man superiority and historical imperialism and actually chose reform to something resembling a competent nation or nations, it could have a meaningful position with significant power in the future. Instead it chooses to be an outlier.

Gatling · 13-12-2023 08:33AM

8 HSE ambulances arrived in Ukraine very recently 2 are already in service near donesk.

https://twitter.com/frontlinekit/status/1734516239244906930?s=20

Field east · 13-12-2023 09:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488817#Comment_121488817

I think ‘Say My name’ you jumped the gun. Why did you not ask ‘ Gatling’ to give 4 or 5 of the main things - in his mind- that Ru can be held responsible for and 4 or 5 of the main things - as per his mind- that Ru is not responsible for. So ‘ Gatling’ here is your opportunity to elaborate on what you are on about - with specific examples

duck.duck.go · 13-12-2023 09:40AM

Another 200mn US aid package this week

In meantime Pentagon can do what they want regardless of Congress

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/12/13/world/politics/pentagon-ukraine-arms-stalemate/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#Echobox=1702433085

pixelburp · 13-12-2023 09:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489408#Comment_121489408

This 100%.. Though don't forget this war has also severely reduced the one thing it did have going for itself: the muscle of its armed forces. The facts speak for themselves and Russia is probably the most provably moribund state in the Western world: there are, IMO, a whole clatter of potential outcomes that might happen when Putin passes & none of them read remotely positive. And you're only starting with how power is passed on 'cos you'd imagine there are a bunch of potential wannabe Putins waiting to sieze control - with relative opinions on Russia's sphere of influence to match. As such, god knows what happens all those outlying regions and satellite "friendly" countries currently under the thrall / thumb of Putin.

odyssey06 · 13-12-2023 09:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489697#Comment_121489697

Armenia has already found that Russia help it under the CSTO recently in conflict with Azerbaijan due to its commitments in Ukraine.

Manic Moran · 13-12-2023 10:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488361#Comment_121488361

The Reddit poster had confused him for me. Similar story and timeline.

Thelonious Monk · 13-12-2023 10:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489873#Comment_121489873

are you sure you're not posting from Valhalla or wherever you soldiers go?

Igotadose · 13-12-2023 11:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121487578#Comment_121487578

It'll be great news as they will have driven RuZZia off and be able to safely run their country. Thanks for bringing it up, tovarisch.

Gatling · 13-12-2023 11:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489873#Comment_121489873

Living in your neck of the woods too oddly enough

Paddigol · 13-12-2023 11:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121487609#Comment_121487609

That's not the point being discussed though.

Paddigol · 13-12-2023 12:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121487663#Comment_121487663

It was a general comment only in the context of the last couple of years. From a relatively slow-and-stead growth for 40 plus years the EU has expanded rapidly in the last 15/20 years in fairness - the bulk of them being former Soviet States IIRC. Agree with the rest of your points.

duck.duck.go · 13-12-2023 12:35PM

So that’s a billion raised in a day by Zelensky, the guy is a legend

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1734894142159782229

Now imagine if Ireland was attacked our charismatic dear leader would have been “negotiating” which quarter of the country to give up in under three days, thinking the Russians still are “good socialists” like the olden Soviet days of his youth

I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct · 13-12-2023 12:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490265#Comment_121490265

If we were attacked the world would recoil in horror. Our ex pats and generational ancestors abroad would leap to our defence regardless of any narrative. Real patriotism isn't something you need to keep lit it's something that awakens in time of dire need.

Zelensky fair play to him he's a great wartime leader. let's hope he's a better one when they kick the russian dirt from their door.

duck.duck.go · 13-12-2023 01:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490339#Comment_121490339

I would hope (granted its a far fetched scenario in first place, but so was Russia invading Ukraine once upon a time) that others would come to our rescue (since we have next to nonexistent defences) but that might be little consolation to the dead and raped and kidnapped

More than likely the republicans would find a way to drag their feet because “dem Irish sodomoties abandoned god and embraced abortion on their democratic liberal path” or something daft like that, while the French tut tut about our taxes, maybe the Brits might help since they still attached to us

JimmyChew · 13-12-2023 01:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121487837#Comment_121487837

I knew I recognized the name, very sad to hear it. I read his book a number of years back on hi experiences in Iraq with the USMC. I recommend it to anyone with an interest in Military/combat.

The Green Marine: An Irishman's war in Iraq.

pixelburp · 13-12-2023 01:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489705#Comment_121489705

And it's only gonna get worse: obviously I don't want a fragmented Russia at war with itself but I really can't see where succession occurs and the country remains stable.

Say what you will about North Korea but their dynastic structure and encircled wagons does kinda ensure continuity of rule. Doesn't seem like you got any potential generals eyeing the throne. Whither that when Putin dies?

I have worried that the worst outcome is the wounded-ego of a Russian (ethno) nationalist getting the top seat and suddenly Putin felt like the better choice; if outlying regions smell weakness the nationalist might deploy what was left of Russia's power as a flex.

I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct · 13-12-2023 02:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490385#Comment_121490385

It wasn't far fetched to anyone working in the military or anyone with an ounce of awareness in foreign affairs, it was an escalation of the 2014 invasion. I wasn't aware of it I'll hold my hand up.

Nah I don't think so. Like I said, I think regardless of what the narrative(lies) an aggressor pedals, our existence if it were threatened would strike to the heart of anyone even remotely that thinks themselves of Irish. We have a ridiculous amount of 1st, 2nd and 3rd cousins in the USA and everywhere that consider themselves as Irish. So I believe we are regime proof no matter who is charge. We are President makers in USA never forget that.

Field east · 13-12-2023 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488361#Comment_121488361

Where does one start having read through all those comments - I’ll have a shot of what was going through my head

(1) Irish people are very respectful towards the bereaved as a mark of respect and secondly we are very mindful of those family members / friends left behind. They are going through enough pain/ grief without adding to it. So those that had not a good word to say about this person was A MASSIVE SLIP OF THEIR MASKS - so more than likely most of them were not Irish even though they might live in Ireland and within walking / if not crawling distance from the Russian Embassy.

(2) I doubt if there is any country in the world - re your typical individual- would make such comments . Exceptions may include serial pediophiles, serial drug vendors, serial criminals/ murderers. So this group have TOTALLY EXPOSED THEMSELVES

(3) was he not free to do what he wanted as long as he is not breaking the law. Imagine if a Russian soldier/ private citizen deflected to the UKR side and helped out the army in some capacity , God only knows what would happen to him if caught by the Ru army

in a word - or two- I found most of the comments ABSOLUTLY DISCUSTING

Igotadose · 13-12-2023 02:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490691#Comment_121490691

The way things are in the USA these days, I doubt my American relatives' resolve. So many Trumplodytes all over.

yagan · 13-12-2023 02:45PM

Off topic but on the whole Irish US thing I reckon there's more a desire to believe we're special when in reality most in the US are indifferent, their Irishness being more an immigrant marker amongst many.

If Biden truly valued his origin story there's no way he'd have pledged iron clad support for Israel's genocide.

Field east · 13-12-2023 02:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490559#Comment_121490559

It might not be a bad idea if the Russians started to fight amongst themselves - even for 100 years if it kept them fully occupied and left everyone else alone. In the meantime the rest of the world can organise themselves so that Ru - when its internal revolution is over- would not even dream of attacking anyone again

duck.duck.go · 13-12-2023 02:51PM

Who can we send in on a sealed armoured train again to Russia to stir **** up and kick things off 😏

Perhaps offer one way tickets to a few of our own homegrown eejits on the same train to experience the glory (holes) of Fatherland.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-12-2023 03:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490789#Comment_121490789

Yeah, but do you really want an "internal revolution" in a country with nukes? What happens if one side decides to nuke the other?

pixelburp · 13-12-2023 03:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490789#Comment_121490789

But that's the problem: dollars for donuts it won't just be Russia and whether it's internal regions like Chechnya or satellite countries around the old USSR sphere; and if the missiles get lobbed between rival factions, we could see yet another migrant and supply-chain crisis as those areas crumble. I just can't imagine a scenario where it's neat and concentrated - and as @Timberrrrrrrr there's the extra wrinkle of this being a country with (supposedly functioning) nuclear weapons.

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