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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Gamergurll


    They referred him on to the main hospital in town and when we went there nothing at all it was completely normal so obviously not something they are all doing..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I don't see what's "extremely paranoid" or "creepy" about it... the dentist will be working at very close quarters, and there is a spike in covid cases.

    Would you prefer your appointment was cancelled because the dental staff got sick?

    It is an "abundance of caution" but need to consider that the dentist or one of their staff could be especially vulnerable to covid.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Gamergurll


    Sure but the second dentist we were at had no precautions, same as a dental clinic I was at myself recently. If its so dangerous why are they not all doing the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Consider that the dentist or one of their staff could be especially vulnerable to covid. Or maybe thinks will have less sick days not just to covid but other respiratory viruses with these precautions. Or maybe this particular dentist treats a lot of patients they deem to be vulnerable.

    The other dentist may have better ventilation.

    All kinds of possible explanations without having to resort to 'creepy' or 'paranoid'.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Unless the dentist can work on a patients teeth through a mask then making them wear one in the waiting room is completely pointless when the mask is getting removed after a few minutes. I'm assuming they aren't making them wear a properly fitted n95 or similar so most will be wearing cloth or surgical masks which aren't stopping anything anyway.

    They are going to be exposed to patients saliva and possible viral particles that become aerosolized during certain procedures. It's just a fact of life when you're a dentist. If they are concerned for their health then they should wear a proper non surgical mask, or change jobs. This nonsense of treating people who aren't even sick as nothing but disease vectors should really be a thing of the past at this stage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You don't know if they are sick do you. Or with what, it doesn't even have to be covid - could be flu. How do you know they aren't sick? Well?

    They could have an air filter unit \ better ventilation in the room where the dental work occurs, but not in the waiting room. In the waiting room they could be mingling with more people. You just don't know.

    Your solution is to change jobs! Sure, cos we have so many dentists? So no solution at all really.

    While surgical type masks aren't as effective as n95 to state they "aren't stopping anything" is without foundation.

    But you feel free to second guess the dentist here for taking some basic precautions. Sure, they are the one engaged in nonsense, not the one suggesting they quit their job.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    They managed to do their jobs without requiring masks for all the decades prior when the flu, colds and various other viruses were doing the rounds. How did they ever survive?! If you don't want to be exposed to people's exhalations then being a dentist is literally the worst career choice possible.

    By all means, air filters are probably a good idea anyway, and proper PPE for themselves can help reduce their own exposure during procedures. Making patients wear a crappy mask in the waiting area is performative nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Covid is more serious than flus and colds. It alters the equation.

    You know what else happened in all those years? Staff out sick with those various viruses, appointments cancelled.

    And sometimes people did not survive.

    Maybe they had the precautions in place during the height of covid and realised they made sense and why were they unnecessarily putting themselves at risk.

    People accumulate health issues as they get older, priorities change too. Suggesting someone stop being a dentist is no solution at all, and it is not like they can go back in time and change their degree.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Gamergurll


    Sorry you didn't like my use of language but I do stand by my point of feeling like the whole thing was a bit ott. Like a lot of people my mental health took a good whack during lock down and I think the reminder of it maybe gave me a bit of a fright, that is my problem of course!

    I have no issue with people in a health care setting taking precautions of course, especially with vulnerability they might have. But my son couldn't wear a mask during treatment, if I had something he most likely would too. It seemed like more of a token gesture, the cloth masks aren't going to be very protective.

    We were in A&E in may and there was none of this, the shields were down and over the 3 day stay there was never a mask requirement. And I would feel a lot more at risk in a hospital.

    If I was ill in any way be it covid or any other bug I wouldn't attend an appointment. Staff of course I think can and should wear protection, but all those extra layers yesterday no, we can't be wrapped up in cotton wool forever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,659 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think the next batch of booster jabs and the winter flu jab will be brought forward here like in the UK



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  • Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hard to believe that's time of year is upon us in a month or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The UK are only offering boosters to over 65s and those otherwise at risk. Or that's what they said a few weeks ago anyway. Pretty sure the "updated" boosters also won't be for whatever the current variant is, but the kraken one which is already on the way out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    People are still getting jabs?

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Nothing to stop anyone but no one has to do a test anymore unless directed to by a health professional. HSE advice is symptoms based now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    True. You don't have to do a test anymore. But you do have to stay at home until 48 hours after symptoms resolve as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,410 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    I was in my local ALDI this evening and they have taken all the COVID introduced perspex protection away from the cashier's.

    Personally for staff protection from loon customers I'd have left them up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,712 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭phormium


    I actually would have had no problem with the perspex screens being left in front of cashiers, sure who needs people coughing/sneezing all over them even in normal life. It's a small thing! Another thing I think should stay is sanitiser at entrance to restaurants/food areas, anywhere you might be eating food and you are touching it, bread roll/burger that type thing, no harm have a rub of sanitiser after touching door handles etc before eating.

    It's amazing though how many places still have the stickers on the floor or the doors, only today saw a place with sign up saying only 3 people in shop at a time, now that is really time to move on!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I think a lot of places would take the stickers up, only they are so well stuck down now from footfall that they take half the floor up with them. I've seen partially peeled off wall stickers too with half the plaster attached to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,377 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Finally..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Wash your hands, no big deal will be the general message by next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    China came out and said that covid is lowering immunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,910 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I got a flu jab, pneumonia Jab and COVID jab in the last couple of weeks.

    And I need to get them all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,410 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,458 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Of course, what was said was actually much more nuanced than that.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Puts a bit of a dent into 'the science' says this and that and everyone who's sceptical is a right wing moron flat-earther who should be locked away for their own good though.

    Which is all the critics were ever on about. Nobody would have minded if it had been a bit more level headed but the all-out bull-headed losing-your-marbles partisan hysteria couldn't get exposed enough for what it was in my opinion. It's that mindless shrill one-sided craziness that progroms are born from. Once you have the people agreeing to the level of madness we were at the next step isn't too far. You should think about that for a minute.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,486 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I read that only 14.5% of healthcare workers have taken the COVID vaccine as of mid November. I wonder why there is so much reluctance. Flu was 30%.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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