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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Belarus and direct NATO involvement, you still haven't moved past the 3 day "walkover".

    Again, what do you want russia to do?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭techman1


    The Saudis need $80 oil to meet their domestic budgets and "the West" wants low oil prices, especially to hurt Russian budgets.

    The Chinese government are replacing their trade partners' US treasury holdings with Peoples Bank of China treasuries, this will give countries an option to mitigate financial restrictions imposed US government policy.

    we know the saudis want to keep oil above $80, but China is getting russian oil much cheaper than that so russian budgets are being hurt and China not helping Putin it will take the cheap oil thank you very much. The twitter thread you posted doesn't make a whole lot of sense because foreign reserves are much more valuable to a country than your own currency. Therefore if China is lending dollars to other countries but demanding chinese currency as payment that is just plain stupid because China can print its own currency but not dollars, how does that country get chinese yuan, by selling goods to China. Therefore China acting like a charity its giving poor countries dollars for which they can buy US and western goods, it gets paid in chinese yuan but must buy produce from that poorer country in order to facilitate this. Therefore the balance of payments of that country aswell as the West improves but it disimproves for China because it is losing foreign reserves and importing rather than exporting goods. Also the whole fantasy of Putin that the chinese yuan would rival the dollar falls down because chinese yuan are not being held as reserves but are just used for transactions. In this example the poor country does not hold onto yuan but china exchanges its US dollars for its own currency, therefore the only countries holding large reserves of yuan are China itself and probably Russia as it is locked out of everything else



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭IdHidden




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭IdHidden


    Estonian intelligence doesn't believe Russia can push Ukrainian army from the East bank of the Dnipro.https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/25/7430339/

    The fact that the Ukrainian army has been able to create a foothold across a major river without any heavy weapons, are are still there and been pushed back into the river just shows how weak the Russian Army is now.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The reason the US is currently short on spare ammunition to give away is that it made the foolish mistake of hoping that other nations might have enough munitions for their own use, not because there were various consolidations and mergers in the industry. After having donated millions of rounds, the US has not dipped into its own pre-determined war stocks levels (with the arguable exception of the cluster munitions which were theoretically still war stocks, even though slated for withdrawal). The US continued to build things like Javelin missiles and M1 tanks in excess of its own requirements precisely to ensure that its production capacity did not atrophy in the same manner as European nations. Remember this, for example, from a decade ago?

    How many times on Boards have we seen commentary about the size of the US defense budget and scathing commentary about the US buying missiles instead of hospitals. Who could have possibly known that you can't defend your basic existence as a nation by slinging cheap prescription drugs at the enemy?

    Ammunition is a standard design, who makes it is not much of a factor. If it's all made by Lake City or Scranton, by GDLS or BAE is irrelevant. Production of the M4 rifle doesn't care if it's made by a Colt factory, an FNH factory and a Remington factory (as they are), or if they are all bought out and built by three Colt factories. It's also worth noting that the equipment to build much of the hardware is owned by the Army. GDLS may operate the Lima Tank Plant, but the plant and the machines to do it are government owned. Same with Watervliet arsenal which makes the barrels for tanks and artillery. No amount of mergers or acquisitions will change that, and even if BAE bought out GDLS or whatever, they couldn't shut down Lima no matter how much they wanted to. (They could, however, reduce the number of employees, which would lead to delays in restarting due to need to retrain).

    All one needs to do is look at history. In WW2 there was a bit of an outcry in that the US government did not award major contracts to the multitude of businesses that could undertake contracts at the time. That was a deliberate decision by the industrial genius Bill Knudsen, that the government should focus only on the major corporations on the basis that the few major corporations could expand and subcontract as necessary. And that's exactly what they did. If they had to share common parts plans, they did. Continental built Wright engines, Ford and Chrysler built Rock Island tanks, and if something was beyond the ability of the company to make, they subcontracted out to companies which they eventually bought out after the war anyway. The government doesn't much care if an aircraft is made by Northrop with Westinghouse Electric ball turrets, or if the whole thing is made by Northrop Grumman Electric (Northrop bought Westinghouse's defense business in 1996). In effect, the US built its way through WW2 using a small number of providers by choice, and it worked. Today there is a small number of providers, not by choice, but there's no reason to believe it doesn't have the same effect.

    The US has historically solved many of its military and manufacturing problems by throwing money at it. The US has the ammunition manufacturing capacity its politicians have been willing to pay for for the last three decades. Had the politicians decided that they wanted to buy 100,000 rounds of ammunition a year, the factories would have been set up to do it. The number of companies in the bidding have nothing to do with that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    ^ well said

    Notice how all the moaning about ammunition in last few months is coming from Russian or pro Russian or “Ukraine should sign away a quarter of its country to a crowd who repeatedly double crossed them” lot

    Ukrainians themselves have been quiet once cluster munitions tap (5.5 million of them with each one 10x more deadly than standard round) and various long range missiles including HIMARS have started flowing

    Zalushny clearly outlined in his paper the 5 things he thinks will win the war

    1. Air superiority
    2. EW warfare
    3. Counter battery fire
    4. Demining
    5. Training and reserves

    In meantime we in the civilised world should continue to squeeze the Russians ever tighter…. Along with their “friends”




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Turn on the English subtitles, the interview is in Ukranian. There is now a "terrible shortage" of artillery shells and "huge shortage" of mines and military personnel on frontline. The person giving the interview heard "scary numbers" that average age in some brigades is 54 & that 3 people remain in some companies out of 110 at start of the war. They are not allowed to report certain numbers.

    General Zaluzhny may be relieved of command over the course of the next month.

    Zaluzhny did not provide a plan for war 2024 and must leave - people's deputy from Servant of the People

    “Yes, the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was unable to provide a plan for 2024. Neither large nor small, neither asymmetrical nor symmetrical. The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month,” she writes.

    PResident Zelensky has had to come out and disavow the above claim, but she is sticking to it.

    Zelensky disowned People's Deputy Bezugla's accusations against the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny

    Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky disowned the statements of Maryana Bezugla , who made accusations against the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny, and condemned her statements.


    Plus if all that is not bad enough there is the truckers strike on the Polish border which is creating logistics problems.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    And given the apparent lack of a plan in Ukraine for 2024, what do you want russia to do in response to that?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    An unsuccessful political candidate who isnt in Zelenskys party, and a pro Russian Ukrainian opposition media article are your sources?

    Well I for one accept your views at face value



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭josip


    When you want to find a particular type of news, you can't be fussy about your sources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭strathspey


    Are you a RuZZian sympathiser? Just for the record, I hate RuZZians!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Actually I live beside the largest polish Ukraine border.

    All trucks transporting food, medical,fuel ,military and humanitarian aid is Actually fast tracked true daily

    None essential imports are restricted and quite a lot.ywo trucks every hour.

    To be honest the border dispute doesn't really affect military transport as most is transported by rail or the polish military.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Can we just pause a tick to acknowledge how you pulled out a post from 2006 - bloody héll. Sometimes it's easy to forget how old this site is, relative to much of the internet. Boards is contemporaneous to Google (ish), Facebook, or predates Twitter, YouTube, Instagram... anything Gen Z uses. It's kinda mad to think about and is a credit that for all the doom-mongering, here the site still exists, even if reduced from its height.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    Black seas blockade failed and hundreds of ships have moved cargo out of Ukraine earning them billions (in meantime Greek shippers all given up on Russia)

    Just like Putin’s war on Europe with gas has been a failure

    Also beside China paying a fraction of what others pay (article posted higher up) and not wanting to pay for pipelines

    Indian companies having massive trouble as Russians don’t want to accept rupees and wait for it want UAE dinars (which is pegged to dollar and defended by US Indian Ocean fleet)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I suspect the Russians might have banked on the Dnipro river to do much of the heavy lifting of defending this area and left a token force while the bulk of thier troops were sent to defend Tokmak and engang whatever Donestsk battle Putin is obsessed with on that given day.

    My guess is that blowing the dam was also part of trying to prevent an AFU landing, without using any decent troops in the attempt. If I'm right, the Russians are being quite foolish in not focusing on this Ukrianian foothold. If the AFU can establish a permanent crossing that can support tanks & APCs, then a whole new front will open up here, which can threaten Crimea. Even worse for them once Ukraine start operating F16s too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,869 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    So, a question, how corrupt is Ukraine..?

    I definitely want Russia to shag off.

    (Also iam a big fan of this thread)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It was/is corrupt, but has been making clear & public reforms: EU accession and NATO membership ain't gonna happen without severe economic and institutional fixes or reforms to any existing problems. The country has been grappling with post-Soviet corruption since independence no more than any other country of that ilk (culminating in a Russia crony President fleeing the country when finally ousted), and perhaps if there's one weird "benefit" of the war, is that it has allowed Zelensky to really clean house in Kyiv.

    They're certainly less corrupt than Russia, and we can track their improvements with the broad-strikes Corruption Perception Index: I'd not be surprised if for 2023 we'll see Ukraine creep up while Russia slides further down.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭zv2


    Sounds like the wave of propaganda to destabilize Ukraine that we have been warned was coming in recent weeks.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning



    I don’t understand why the Finns had the border open in first place, if I were a citizen of any country bordering Russia i be lobbying my representatives to ensure anything that moves over border from Russian direction is shot at first and questions asked second



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    There are still some very malicious actors within Ukrainian top circles clearly



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    Apparently a number of people were poisoned at the same meal but only she took ill initially because the others were of bigger build. Presumably men in that case, she may not have been the target. The others are now receiving treatment.

    Could be Putin or could just as likely be an internal dispute within Ukraine. There's been a large amount of dismissals recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    Who knows. I wish her a speedy recovery though she's probably no angel. Scary how these things happen even though I'm sure security around the inner circle is very tight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    Ah yes of course it’s Ukrainians and not the Russian regime next door with a long history of poisoning people

    /s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,540 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    As if Budanov needed more motivation... he's not a man whose wife I'd like to offend, never mind fail to murder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    What makes you think she’s not an angel? Is that what Russian propaganda is telling you? Or will you admit that like I, you know nothing about her?



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