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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    An army emptying its mothballed stock of ww2 equipment and having to reach out to North Korea for ammunition is not on a great logistical footing. It's not like one day we'll hear about russian soldiers using bow and arrows. The point is that they're depleting their ability to prosecute this war at a level that keeps parity with the opponent.

    They already have run out of stuff, if they're trotting out 80 year old tanks, while their famous artillery dependence has become nominal; and when those run out or are destroyed, then what? At this stage the sizable numerical advantage and rank disregard for their own troops is probably the only thing keeping Ukrainian advances to a minimum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    No end in sight Putin will keep sending bodies out to fight even if they are poorly trained and equipped they will keep the Ukrainians engaged for the foreseeable future unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    English Broadcasting Corporation November 25th 2123:

    Today recorded yet another day of 1200 casualties as the Russian Empire stormtroopers try again to capture the Avdiivka slag heaps. Emperor Putin IV of the Genetic dynasty promises that this will be the year that the Zelensky regime will be finally crushed. In other news Russians have ran out of metal tipped spears and have to resort to using wooden sticks against the automated combined Ukrainian and EU drone defenders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    You'd wonder just how long it will take. But it must happen in time. Doubtless our regular Russian psychiatrist will tell us they are incapable of independent thought and will act like zombies to the last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Seems an awful thing to be thinking in normal times but there would have to be near wipeouts of Russian soldiers at the front to maybe start some sort of a backlash against Putin . Much as I would like a revolt against him to start it doesn't appear likely anytime soon .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Collapse won't be apparent until it happens in russia if history is anything to go by. russians are used to misery and hopelessness but everything has a breaking point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Agree there is always a breaking point just as long as Ukraine can keep the pressure on and keeps getting better equipment to outlast Putin holds .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The shinners and pro Palestinian posters won't be happy





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭storker


    ...and boy do the Russia fanboys hate him for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    So victory is not around the corner for the Russians.

    They were duped all along and 300 thousand young men died for nothing.

    For a population even smaller than before Germany and France and an economy smaller than Italy maybe the penny is dropping that people saw through what they were trying to project to the world.

    Not great. The seats in the Hague must be getting warmed up in preparation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭Homelander


    And it's true? The evidence is literally right there, they're resorting to using even older equipment with every passing month.

    Russia "running out of stuff" doesn't mean they are running out of things to use, it means they are running out or low on their most modern equipment.

    Which is exactly what is happening.

    Why do you think they were so desperate to buy their own stock back/crappy stock from the likes of North Korea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    USA has enough ammo for every conceivable war in any theatre and then some. russian pathetic attempts to deflect from it's own post industrial struggles are only gifting us all with **** and giggles.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,640 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    That’s a bizzare far left fantasy piece that doesn’t reflect reality

    Which is that various defence companies are being showered with money from investors via Wall Street

    Be it Lockheed, general dynamics, rtx etc

    hell even Boeing got over its disaster and now trading at double the PE of Tesla which itself is wildly overvalued imho

    Rheinmetal is probably the only bright spark left in the German economy in last few years is busy building factories including Ukraine itself

    Russia doesnt have time on its side once the us military industrial complex gets into full gear and factories are being built and the new sanctions are targeting tooling for weapons manufacture ring and Russia literally has no homemade tools as their industrial base got completely gutted in 90s with mechanics now in their pension age

    The republicans can only horse trade so long over the 100 bn package on their desks (as a lot of the employment is in their districts) which I see now just grown to 106bn

    edit: 40mins ago

    package includes expanding black powder plant in his constituency ^

    Capitalism and greed will win in the end especially as there is money to be made in grinding Russians into paste now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Was reading this morning that they did send some of their own drones back the other way yesterday (at least acc. to the Russians, if you can believe that!). Russia deserves to reap the whirlwind at this stage IMO.

    Unfortunately Ukraine is somewhat hobbled. Apart from size/power/wealth disadvantages, its allies haven't provided that many long range weapons (and Ukraine still has orders not to use these on targets in Russia), and afaik (?) they won't help Ukraine too much with building its own weaponry that can strike deep into Russia (they are being left to accomplish that by themselves).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭farmerval


    The Ukrainians are definitively weathering the Russian attacks from the last few weeks. The targeted artillery and precision strike seem to continually thwart what feels like the only Russian advantage at this stage, which is numbers.

    A huge change from a year or more ago, when the Russians had huge artillery advantages. The Russian threat seems to diminish more the longer the war goes on.

    The huge disappointment has been the European response at large. The lack of commitment to new manufacturing facilities for shells and weapon systems is keeping the Russians in the game longer. If Europe had a fully funded plan in place to ramp up the military industrial complex, that knowledge would be proof that Europe is serious about it's own defence, instead it's individual countries making piecemeal purchases of equipment, but no central commitment to putting the pieces in place for long term security.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Been it hasn't been mentioned on here there's currently 1700 Ukrainian HGV trucks trapped on the polish/Ukraine borders after local polish truckers and farmers stopped Ukrainian vehicles returning to Ukraine, polish truck Operators want quotas on Ukrainian trucks entering Poland and the EU restored to pre war levels , it's been claimed 3 Ukrainian drivers have died while stuck at the border





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Polar101


    The game-changing imminent occupation of Kupiansk and the encirclement of Avdiivka - are those still on?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Looks like Russia has made some gains in Avdiivka this week, with various claims of them now occupying the industrial sector of Avdiivka with Ukrainian forces moving back to the city



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Report form Ukraine that renewed attacks by putin's forces on chemical plant at Adiivka achieved nothing significant:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The fact that they are now in Avdiivka is showing they have achieved gains despite the best efforts from Ukrainian artillery, they would well be looking at another bakmuth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭macraignil


    putin's forces have been attacking Adiivka since 2014. Nothing new there I can see except for lots more dead moskovytes and destroyed moskovyte military equipment recently unless you have some reliable evidence to show otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭Rawr


    This does feel like a potential Bakmut sequel, in the sense that this has may have been made a political objective by the Russians and is being pushed by Putin as a high priority regardless of the human cost.

    Their use of resources at Bakmut was madness, and gained them very little strategically. If anything, Bakmut might have been what brought them that Wagner rebellion. Now they don’t even seem to have Wagner anymore thanks to that. Taking Adiivka at very least makes sense in terms for defending Donetsk from Ukraine. If the Russian defence here was to ever fall, the AFU would be in marching distance of downtown Donetsk thanks in no small part to their positions in Adiivka.

    But beyond a very slow and creeping advance (with occasional reversals), can the Russians actually pull off a second Bakmut here? There is a greater danger of encirclement here for the AFU, but they do seem to be outclassing the Russian attackers in this fight. But if they can keep their supplies and troop rotations going, there’s every chance that an already exhausted Russian force (being egged on my an increasingly furious Putin) will run out of fighting spirit and will have to pull back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I believe its only a matter of time before the Stalin doctrine catches up with Putin. Will it be the money running out to prosecute the war? Facts on the ground or just sheer loss of number that will be the tipping point. Maybe a combination of all three, but something is going to give in 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Except now they are in adviika where before they weren't,

    It's there in your own article



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭macraignil


    No it's not. You are the only one I can see claiming putin's forces are in Adiivka. Here is another recent report with details from the front lines in that area with nothing to support your claim.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Just wondering in regards to bakmut and Ukraines attack on same. In regards to the time Russia had to take the city compared to Ukraine trying to regain bakmut what percentage is Ukraine at in regards to doing so compared to say Russia when they were attacking bakmut? I know Russia would of had thousands of more deaths but say 6 months into the Russian attack say they had 80% taken where is Ukraine in the same time scale as Russia in regards to this?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It took Russia 9 months to take bakmuth but there wasn't always heavy fighting until the last 6 months when they threw but the kitchen sink at it , while Ukraine seem to be taking there time trying to get it back,and I don't blame them bakmuth was costly to the Ukrainians too , while people focus on Russian losses they tend to be blind to the idea that Ukraine actually suffered at bakmuth just as bad they were re-enforced 4 times and still lost it taken heavy losses which most would have been considered unnecessary losses,and over the last while we're hearing complaints Ukrainian unit's haven't left the front in 18 months so there doesn't seem to appear to be a lot of rotation going on this can lead to tiredness and complacency which costs lives ,

    A couple of weeks ago people were telling us how the Russians couldt hold a vital slag heap now they are in adviika I don't think anyone would have predicted Russians getting that far ,it's now snowing in Ukraine so hopefully that will slow down the Russians for a couple of weeks to months

    Post edited by Gatling on


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