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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,539 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Don't forget Cuba, the paradise that opened it's arms to the Irish emigrants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Undermine Irish neutrality, what a joke! SF belligerence towards Israel is anything but neutral.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Further analysis on the anti-democratic and anti-free-speech tactics being used by SF to stifle criticism




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 694 ✭✭✭batman75


    I see Mary Lou put out a statement on the passing of Ben Dunne. Bless she has brass neck. Has she forgotten it was her buddies in the IRA that kidnapped him 40 years ago. Not the brightest is our Mary Lou.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,945 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I must not be the only one who finds amusement to SF's po-faced response to the Dublin Riots yesterday. Against lawlessness and sticking up for the establishment (The Gardai).

    Plus because of the nature of SF's core voting base emphasise had to made about the majority of people in North Inner City Dublin as apposed to the minority that caused the trouble. I believe it was Matt Carty who was brought in to talk about the 'Treble Lock" debate - talking to Miriam O'Callaghan. But that debate was shelved because of the Riots.

    In fairness to Carty he quickly had to pivot and show how SF were only against certain members of the working classes who did not abide by the rule of law.

    But I cannot help thinking that many of those rioting would be at least traditionally "SF inclined" that is the truth of it.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Quote "But we'll be best buds with Hamas, Iran, Venezuela, Russia etc.".


    And not to mention the FARC controlled areas of Columbia. And was not Libya in its day was best friends with SF too?

    And to think she may one day be Taoiseach. I agree she is not the brightest, but I think she is good at reading prepared speeches, I'll give her that. Otherwise she would not be the one reading the speeches prepared by the lads above her.

    And if/ when there is a shortfall the "rich" ( people who earn more than say 80k a year ) can be taxed to the maximum. That will keep their voters happy. Same as those voters in their comrade countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Its that time f the month, Sinn fein and a no confidence motion.

    Mary Lou and the crocodile tears trying to get in on the press yesterday didn't work so now this carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭threeball


    It'd sicken your hole to hear MLMD out whinging again about everything bar the ferral scum that caused last nights trouble, because thats her base.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    The public are not blaming Gardai for this one so it is a strange misstep by Mary Lou McDonald.

    Must be driven entirely by the background of the Garda Commissioner, which is disappointingly immature and indeed, very partitionist.

    Are we to expect every issue to be met with reactionary stunts when SF are in government?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    Rank and file members of the GRA don't have confidence in the Commissioner. Why would you expect Mary Lou or anyone else for that matter to have confidence in him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭mikep


    It's a strange move alright considering she's hoping to be the next Taoiseach, she'll have lots of awkward questions to answer if Harris is still commissioner during the election campaign.

    His position would be immediately untenable once she became Taoiseach so that would bring on a self inflicted crisis upon taking power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Rank and file don't want their rosters changed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Every stranger move when she was giving a Garda killer a round of applause and glorifies the murderer of children in the North.

    Her online following pushing around how great she was and how she shed a tear. Im sure some people will fall for the theatrics but the majority won't.

    Sticking Matt Carty on PrimeTime to then announce the riots had nothing to do with Inner City Dublin shows what a shower of headless chickens the entire party is. Then to go after the Garda Commissioner is brainless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Garda are getting beat up on the street, this is attack on all Garda and thats how it will be seen. Sinn Fein as usual not reading the room and trying to protect the group of scumbags who re looting and rioting in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    I know a married couple who are Garda, the roster means they can get away without childcare. Plenty of other in same boat, to be honest the way they get treated I don’t begrudge them one bit. The problem is the number of Garda and changing the roster won’t fix that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    You've some imagination.

    "Ms McDonald said that while rank-and-file gardaí have her support, she has lost the confidence of both Ms McEntee and Mr Harris in their roles."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Mary Lou would never lie? 😂

    Sinn Fein have attacked the Garda at every opportunity, round of applause at their meetings for a Garda killer. What would Mary Lou know about the Garda?

    any time a vote is up for special criminal court is up Sinn Fein run out of Dail so they don’t have to be present, I wonder why that is?

    You could hazard a guess and wild speculation they don’t want to get on the wrong side of organised crime, it’s not like they have links to organised crime anymore? Do they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    To be fair i dont know any Garda or have even heard of any Garda who has confidence in either helen or drew

    and the issues go waaaaay beyond rosters , the mess last night exposed some but not all of that,

    believe it or not there are now issues around paying off duty gardai who responded to the pleas for help last night

    i listened to a interview with helen earlier where is flat out lied on several occasions about operational issues from last night that im not going to go into here ,

    saying that the prospect of sf government is deeply worrying for any serving garda right now , I believe that it would result in a mass resignation of a few hundred in a block added to the approx. 200 we will lose by the end of this year

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    It's strange how you appear to be so supportive of Gardai but are on the side of the commissioner who they have no confidence in just so you can use it as a stick to beat Sinn Fein with. I'm not a Sinn Fein supporter so I don't really care.

    My initial point remains the same. I'm not surprised that Mary Lou or the Soc Dems or members of the public do not have confidence in the commissioner when he doesn't have the confidence of the vast majority of the GRA membership.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    That's a bigger issue with the entire force and has been going on years, long before Helen.

    Mary Lou jumping on it as if she is a spokesperson for the garda is a laugh. She seems to think people forget her applauding a Garda killer and begging for his early release.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo



    Who said I am on the side of the commissioner?

    My initial point is the same, Mary Lou is not a spokesperson for the Garda, never was and never will be. Running around with the group of scumbags who attacked the Garda last night is what Mary Lou and Sinn Fein is more used to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    So you agree with her that the Commissioner should resign?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The Justice Minister and the Garda Commissioner should be sacked if they don't offer their resignation after this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭threeball


    To be honest the judiciary and the solicitors have more to answer for, for the revolving door system they've cultivated to line their pockets whilst letting scumbags roam the streets who in most other countries wouldn't see the light of day. Until they get serious about crime in this country, we'll continue the slide that's been in train for 25yrs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Let's be honest, Mary lou losing confidence in Harris and mcentee is nothing to do with last night. When tourists were getting attacked she didn't lose confidence, when 99% of guards lost confidence in drew harris, she still didn't declare no confidence in either of them.

    She is at best using this situation to score cheap points. At worst, she is cowtowing to those in her own constituency by trying to deflect blame on harris/mcentee and away from the people that were burning busses and garda cars.

    On the face of it she is presenting the same arguments as conor mcgregor and the other wing nuts over on twitter - "you shouldn't have done the bad things but really it's not your fault, it's the guards fault and the governments fault."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    i d suggest that its also to do with her being the mouth piece of a terrorist/organized crime gang



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Ahh the Sinn Fein school of thought I see. Agree with Mary Lou? No because it is just the latest in a long line of PR stunts from a party struggle to keep up with the noise they started. Sinn Fein biggest problem was always going to be time. When they ran for the hills during covid and left the other parties to form a government, Im fairly sure they expected covid would take down the government.

    Problem was for all the mistakes the government made, Sinn Fein flip flopped all the time and showed to a lot of people they are completely useless. Plus the disaster in the North didn't help at all with people flocking over the border to get help.

    Now we have the latest. Should the Commissioner resign? I don't know. Do we have a better alternative? if we do will the alternative be still going with the changes to the roster? will they be able to hire more Garda?

    Or do we fire a perfectly good Commissioner to end up with a worse one and all the same problem

    You see that took all of 2 minutes to come up, something the entire Sinn Fein party wouldn't be able to work out in a "think tank".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Bit from column A and column B. Mary Lou was at the attack site, crocodile tears when the camera came on. What she didn't do was go to her constitution and tell them not to wreck the place. Instead she sent one of her minions onto TV to tell everyone it wasn't inner city dublin rioting.

    The vote of no confidence is because people are angry and this is points scoring exercise.

    When the Garda lost confidence in Drew Harris it was over roster mainly and under staffed. Do they want him changed now a few hours away from a potential another riot?

    ny Garda I know doesn't want anything to do with Sinn Fein or Mary Lou, I already posted why but they are also entangled as a party in serious crime and the information is available all over the web. Ask the Garda if they want Sinn Fein in government and see what answer you get



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