BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

What an ignorant comment. Of course it matters, that's why I ask. Drivers shouldn't allow anyone with dirty clothes, the one who doesn't pay or is dirturbingly intoxicated on a bus in the first place.

Getting the 18 to work for the final time today, before it switches to the S2 on Sunday.

Stop 849 on Appian Way now has the new timetable, and while the 11 still uses the DB style timetable, it is showing its route diagram! Since Go-Ahead initially started operating and the new style timetables were introduced, DB haven't really gotten route diagrams - the only routes to do so were mainly the bus connects routes operated by DB.

I see John Lahart is after posting a petition to save the 75 and 175. I mean it wasn't like there was public consultation that went on for over 3 years no doubt.

Yes, there are apparently around 20 staff car diagrams planned during the week. Certainly a far safer solution than the old dragging of the bus in (I still have the last Harristown version of the 17A in my mind's eye: it only ever had 12 buses in revenue service at a time but needed 15 altogether because of the breaks in the garage).

It appears that for any breaks taking place in the garage, GAI are choosing the closest location to it. Keep in mind that the S8 is at best f-30, so to produce an efficient enough duty cut it would have had to pair up with something more frequent anyway—might as well boost the S6 bill.

Dundrum canteen does seem to have no more use from next week though, you're right.

I'd also wager that there have been enough complaints about the 75 mixing with the DL locals and the resultant knock-on delays, be it the bus or drivers coming back from breaks, that they just took the opportunity to get rid of the problem altogether.

As for the 114 and the DART, I don't think GAI want to rely on anything external for scheduling. It appears they want everything to be dealt with in-house.

That's sad that our society is ok with this. We should provide from a budget to accommodate rather than try to be too good to one taking away a comfort from the others. I personally don't want to be on a bus with a smelly dirty intoxicated person. By accommodating them we hide an actual problem.

Same here where both the 75 and 175 pass close by. No leaflet with 4 days to go.

Is there a realistic date for completion?

I know it'll probably always be tweaked and adjusted particularly with College Green Plaza and shortage of drivers and Dart+ and Metro etc.

But what's a realistic date for all spines and orbitals being in place?

2 years time maybe. I assume they'll want it done before election but might not be possible.

I think the general philosophy is solid.

It was way overdue for an overhaul.

As long as it's an improvement I'm happy and keeps moving in the right direction.

I think it will really need bus corridors to be a real success.

I mean I can't wait for the F Spine but it's not like it's much of an improved route for me cos it's still going to be slow at Harts Corner and crawl down the Whitworth road. For other routes it will help though.

Oddly, the change I'm waiting for is an improvement to the 40e route (or whatever the new route is), because it's a proper BusConnects "switch to another mode of transport to improve your journey times", which it absolutely can be.

The planned bus corridors won't change much on the the Swords, Clongriffen, Lucan or Bray corridors where there is already near continuous bus lane. These routes are planned to have a 3 to 5 minute bus frequency on roads that wont be very different and currently have gaps of 15 mins or more right now. 3 min frequency buses on regular roads is fantasy, the world's most frequent bus services on dedicated roads with absolute priority can just about reach that frequency.

The Blanch QBC will be a big improvement, the south side corridors seem to have been deliberately botched, most wouldn't stand up to any design scrutiny. Why that was done is anyones guess. But I don't see how board planala can approve some of the trash that the NTA submitted.

If we introduced enforcement we could have a significant improvement but government doesn't wanna touch that.

Good stuff.

Yes the rathgar route is good, forgot about it because its been eons since it went to planning. Kimmage is a disaster as is some of the city centre junctions on all the south sode corridors

Well, then it should be!