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Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    😂😂🤣🤣Thanks for the psychological analysis much appreciated, it's saved me years of therapy.

    There's a special kind of gormless eejit these days who thinks empathy and kindness are some kind of superpower and also the most important thing in the world, they're not, most people have plenty of empathy and kindness they just don't need to go around telling everyone they do and how important is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Doesn't really make me angry.It's just the pathetic virtue signalling nature of it and taking a fairly lighthearted harmless question so seriously in order to make himself look important.The answer makes him look like a pretentious gobshite.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    “It's the pathetic virtue signalling nature of it and taking a fairly lighthearted harmless question so seriously in order to make himself look important.The answer makes him look like a pretentious gobshite.”


    Smells like anger to me. Instead of being emotional, can you actually explain the problem with his answer. I’d really prefer to avoid things like “virtue signalling”. It’s a nothing phrase that’s overused

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I presume the assumption is that he's being insincere to give that answer... I guess?

    I don't really understand the strong emotions he seems to stir in some people. I've enjoyed some of his content through the years. A lot of the Rubberbandits stuff was inspired back in the day.

    I've dipped in and out of the podcast every now and again. It can be hit and miss: sometimes a very funny segment or a good guest. Other times it sounds to me like he's totally waffling or spoofing.

    What he has to say doesn't impinge on my life in any meaningful way, certainly not to the extent that I feel actively irritated by him. If you don't listen to his podcast or read interviews with the guy it seems to me that you shouldn't really be all that concerned with him at all. He's easily ignored if you don't like him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Sorry to burst your bubble, A, but if you found the Rubber Bandits stuff “inspired” you were, more than likely, missing the point. Or at least the one Blind Boy Boat Club retrofitted about the Rubber Bandits’ work.

    He has since claimed that the early fans of the group, the ones who bought their CDs and went to see them live, weren’t the fans they wanted and had completely missed that it was some form of meta-satire of not making fun of skanger lifestyles in Limerick but instead it was actually laughing at the type of people who would laugh at that sort of thing, through the medium of making fun of skanger lifestyles in Limerick.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    Blindboy boatclub has had more success, positive notoriety and has done more for the promotion of positive mental health than anyone on this thread could possibly achieve in 100 lifetimes. Any anger directed at him comes from a place of jealousy and is not to be taken seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I explained the issue with his answer.

    It's insincere bullshit used to pander to gobshites.

    You don't agree with my explanation then fine.

    What the hell is up with people on this forum that you continually have to spell everything out for them like they're a 6 year old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭onrail


    It's moreso the venom of your delivery that's baffling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's a discussion board, if you just want to state something without being challenged on it, then I understand Instagram or Facebook is the place to go to.

    I know I find it very intriguing that someone advocating for others to have empathy is seen as insincere bullshit. Do you believe that no one can express such a view without it being motivated just to garner likes or attention?

    If you do genuinely believe, this, I would repeat my post about printing that out and taking it to a therapist, it's not a normal or rational viewpoint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    My viewpoint is perfectly normal and rational. Pretentiousness like he displayed in his answer to a lighthearted question makes him seem like a gobshite.

    Thanks for the health advice but I'm not going to take any from some random nobody on the internet like yourself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭Arghus



    I can only speak to my own response to their output back in the day. But I'd like to see those quotes for further context.

    Was there a large part to the Rubberbandits schtick that played up to certain stereotypes for easy laughs? Yes, absolutely.

    But, I also think their best songs were musically interesting, fresh and funny and their appeal, to me, had as much to do with the absurdist humour that they had going on, as opposed to just merely laughing at the working class or whatever else. A song like Spoiling Ivan, for instance, is just strange and disturbing - and I love it for that. There was way more to their act than just one dimension. Other songs like Fellas, Dad's Best Friend or Double Dropping Yokes with Eamonn DeValera weren't just piss takes of working class stereotypes.

    I also think back to some of the stuff they did on Republic of Telly where their skits were way sharper and more fully realised than what was going on around them. I remember being genuinely impressed by the Salmon of No Craic sketch. Sustained surreal hillariousness, which I did find inspired. I see more of that today in Bobby Fingers' videos than in anything Blindboy does now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Blindboy could tell someone the time of day and people would accuse him of being pretentious.

    There's some that always throw that at him, and they're always going to. (This is precisely why he wears the bag on his head you know)

    It's not perfectly normal and rational to think asking others to have empathy by the way. It's a lot of things, its not that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭OnTheCorner


    So he answered your question, you completely dismiss his answer and ask him to answer it again using different words? Strange. I get the feeling any answer he gives would not be acceptable to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,021 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    We take politicians seriously so why not a lad with a plastic bag on his head?

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    He didn’t answer my question. He threw a load of angry insults. Weird carry on

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    You’re just repeating insults. You’re absolutely not explaining why it’s making you so angry. I don’t think you’re capable of explaining it to be honest.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less


    All I know about him his that my bruh sends me the odd meaningful song thing thang that he does and honestly if it hits the spot and has good message who gives a ****!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    It's not even a particularly pretentious answer, it's a bad question that he answered in a different way and it's seemed to rile you to no end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    It's funny because he talks a lot about struggling to express himself when he was younger because of all that old school masculinity crap like 'boys don't cry' and being sensitive or creative is a sign of weakness. How you couldn't do lots of things that weren't safe masculine things for fear of being labelled 'soft' or 'gay'. This kind of repressing yourself to not upset the norm. At the same time, because of his undiagnosed autism, he got called weird loads because he'd say atypical things or stuff that made people uncomfortable.

    I think a lot of people who complain about him nowadays would have been the ones calling him soft or weird when he was a kid. And they definitely served as inspiration for songs like Dad's Best Friend and Fellas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less


    Yep😊 That's how I'm talking these days 😂😂😂 it's my new style 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,213 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it was only after i started watching the bobby fingers videos that i copped that he must have also created the gabriel byrne doll from 'fellas'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,288 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Not quite sure what your point is, usually when someone mentions the other party uses a thesaurus it means they are subconsciously bowing to their superior intellect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    If he ever does have children, they'll be raised by a compassionate father who won't try to force them in to being anything but will offer them support and love.

    Things that unfortunately, not every child gets to experience.

    Anyone who listens to his podcasts with anything approaching an open mind will know how acutely aware he is of the impact adults have on children in both positive and negative ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    As someone who has listened to probably just under half of the guys podcasts - I have to admit I have never heard him claim that everyone has a mental health problem and that everyone is a loser.

    Working on the assumption that you are not simply dishonest and straw-manning words into peoples mouth that they never said - perhaps you could maybe offer a few quotes and citations to this effect? Because yes I would very much agree that offering the claim that everyone is a loser and everyone has mental health problems would be a poor position to be espousing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    If you've listened to Blindboys podcasts, and your takeaway is that he thinks he is a loser, then I don't know what to tell you.

    I've seen highly qualified mental health experts praise him for what he has done around mental health in terms of his speaking on it and if they don't have any issue with it, I think it says a lot. They would naturally be very intune with what could constitute harmful behavior.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭randd1


    Look, the lad does plenty of good work, he does try to help people, and for that he is to be commended. He's not out to do anyone, and for the most part he's bland and inoffensive. Sounds like a decent chap who is trying to do some good with his position.

    That being said, it's not an unreasonable position to take that a lad wearing a plastic bag on his head, putting on a fake accent and constantly going on about mental health like an expert despite not having an qualification in the field (that I know of), is a bit of a know-it-all eejit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    While he does not have a full qualification in the field he did at least study it for some time before moving on to other things. So it would elevate him however slightly over the complete lay man on the street. Someone else might give the details more accurately than I - but as I recall he started a university course on the subject and then did not complete it.

    However to be entirely fair to him - he very often indeed does point out that everything he says is coming from the perspective of a practicing amateur and that he does not speak with any authority. Pretty much every time he discusses a mental health topic he does so under the rubric of "This is what worked for me - try it and it might work for you - but just because it did work for me does not mean it automatically will work for you".

    And on certain mental health topics he has openly said he would not discuss those topics without an expert present. So he seems to show some awareness of the limitations of what he can and should speak to/on. An awareness all too many people on and off line lack entirely.

    He has also pointed out on numerous occasions that people who are actually qualified in - and work in - the mental health field in Ireland have used his podcasts as reference and prescribed material for their patients. Which he points out is actually terrible and he would echo your words that if such people are coming to an eejit with a bag on his head for such - then that says more about the state of the mental health profession in Ireland than it does about the eejit with the bag on his head.

    Joe Rogan very similarly said almost exactly the same recently when he said "People keep coming to me, a moron cage fight commentator, for political advice. If anything that's a supply chain issue". That people are coming to Blindboy for help with mental health issues - or to Rogan for insight into political issues - says nothing at all about Blindboy or Rogan.

    So it would seem your critique - which I would entirely agree with in principle - does not actually apply that strongly to him at all. Nor do I find the "bag" and the "accent" at all relevant in even the smallest way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    He doesn't put on an accent constantly though.

    And on every podcast on which he talks about mental health, he states that he has no qualification on the topic.

    But, his manner on how he talks about it is of someone who has knowledge on the topic, is open to ideas around it, and is self-aware as to his own experiences and behaviours, and the impact of events in his life and who he was then, and who he is now.

    I don't listen to him for advice, but as someone with extensive experience of dealing with my own mental health, I think a lot of people would benefit from listening to what he is saying on the topic, rather than dismissing him for saying it while wearing a bag on his head.

    He's not a substitute for mental health care, but most of the improvement in our own mental health ultimately comes from within (outside of definitive clinical scenarios) and I think he's a good advocate for introspection even if someone doesn't consciously say that they are going to do it because Blindboy says that they should. He doesn't. But in talking about his own introspection, it will lead most people to do something similar themselves, even subconsciously and there can be benefit in that. He doesn't tell people what to do, he tells people what he does, there's a significant difference in that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I don't think he's ever claimed to be a mental health expert. He talks about his experiences and what techniques he uses. I can't remember him ever saying "this is what you have to do", it's more "this is what works for me".

    Whenever he has mental health experts (or experts in any field that he is not qualified in, for that matter) on, he asks them about the topic and offers his own theories but he frequently defers to the qualified experts and bows to their higher knowledge. I don't know where people get this idea that he is some self-appointed mental health expert; he is just someone who wants to share his experiences and talk about mental health issues.

    If I'm wrong, please show me quotes or clips where he has said otherwise.



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