Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Hospitals, mosques, schools, refugee camps, journalists and ambulances targeted with over 10000 dead, including over 4000 children. Over a million forcibly moved from their homes. 178 Palestinians killed in the West Bank by settlers and IDF.

I'm going to post this regularly until one of the shills here can give me ONE reason, just ONE, why children's painted plates would so trigger and offend people that they would contact a group of activist lawyers to have them removed.

The official wing of the MAGA lunatics.

Seriously, you've been around these conversations for years and don't know the acronym for one of the two main parties?

The US has been a superpower since about 1900. Super powers come and go. There was both war and peace before 1900 and there will be war and peace as the US declines. You do a bad job of showing a correlation between the US as a superpower and lack of wars.

The US has edit: been a "power" since then perhaps...only a superpower (with Soviets) since the end of WW2 and the sole superpower since collapse of USSR (with latter period now coming to an end as we enter this new multipolar world you and others are happy for). Oh war always existed - ah well that is okay so. On other hand maybe not so okay (!) as weapons humanity has today did not exist back in the 1900s.

I mostly made a prediction, so we have little data as yet. The best comparison period when we get down to looking at correlations (if people are around to do it) will be post Cold War to date, or perhaps end WW2 to date (the USs time as superpower or "hegemon") vs what is coming down the tracks.

(getting back to thread topic somewhat) I actually kind of think the unrestrained way Israel is acting in Gaza is another early fruit of how the world is changing (going "multipolar"). The US control over what they do here may not be quite as great as some think it is. Netanyahu certainly doesn't seem to be paying much attention at all to the Biden admin. + doesn't feel the need to.

'We'

Lol

The problem here, and I find this a particularly disgusting thing to do, is that the Israeli media/IDF took what was already a horrendous thing to happen and exaggerated and facilitated exaggerations because the people that were killed weren't killed in a horrific enough way.

Babies beheaded, not confirmed by any Israeli body yet still repeated by officials, including in the UN. Rapes and sexual assaults, probably true but nowhere near the extent. Babies in ovens and people burned alive, possibly but the IDF were using artillery, air strikes and tanks as part of their defence.

People were murdered, but their murders weren't gruesome enough.

I'm sure that you have all heard about this shocking incident in Florida where a politician was talking about the Gaza/Israel issue in the State Senate and asked "How many more Jews must die?" in relation to the rocket attacks, to which a Republican senator Michelle Salzman shouted "ALL OF THEM".

Of course it was immediately condemned by the White House and senior politicians across the divide. It was debated across every media outlet and was headlines across the world highlighting the worrying rise in antisemitism.

Only joking of course, she only shouted "ALL OF THEM" in regards to Palestinians, not Jews.

https://www.newsweek.com/republican-calls-all-palestinians-die-viral-video-1842599#:~:text=A%20Florida%20state%20representative%2C%20identified,during%20a%20Florida%20Senate%20session.

The Israelis must think that the Hamas snipers must have a very bad aim . How come that it is only one soldier using the Palestinian for cover and for only 7 secs of the 18 secs shown. ?

Yes, It is not a "quality source of news" - it has a severe slant to it.

Posted this before I think on different thread (Polish media report/investigation from 2022 on who is behind the account; links to (Polish) Law and Justice party etc., but I suppose could have been changes since then).

They're not doing much for their own credibility with this non stop pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian stuff. It reads more like a propaganda blog than a supposed news source - if they're that blatant and openly biased in their 'reporting', why would anyone believe anything on their page? I would hazard a guess even some of their right wing readers are looking at this with raised eyebrows.

Yeah I'm a strong believer in not attributing to malice what is more likely stupidity or negligence.

Israeli soldier using a blindfolded man as a human shield

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzdyKFiO5Q0/?igshid=NHFwZG9rejUxYW4=

What a misleading tweet. The article doesn't state that there is no evidence, but that the evidence wasn't collected because a priority was put on identifying victims. We all saw women bleeding with our own eyes. Witnesses have described rapes. They happened. Link to actual article which the person didn't include because it doesn't say what they claim it does

https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-war-and-urgent-need-to-id-bodies-evidence-of-hamass-october-7-rapes-slips-away/

I don’t know what reality you live in, but that’s sick. In civilised countries they don’t film the dead as proof for the sickos, they have some respect for the relatives.

Palestinians officials say hospitals hit in air strikes (rte.ie)

Palestinian officials say Israeli air strikes hit Gaza hospitals

Israeli air strikes hit Gaza's biggest hospital, the Al Shifa, killing one person and wounding others sheltering there, Palestinian officials said, one of several hospitals reported struck as Israeli troops battled Hamas in the heart of the enclave.

Officials said other strikes had damaged parts of the Indonesian Hospital and reportedly set fire to the Rantissi paediatric and cancer hospital in the northern part of Gaza, where Israel says Hamas militants who attacked it last month are concentrated.

Israeli tanks, which have been advancing through northern Gaza for almost two weeks, have taken up positions around the Rantissi, Al-Quds and Nasser Children's hospitals, raising concern for patients, doctors and evacuees there, medical staff said.

"Israel is now launching a war on Gaza City hospitals," Mohammad Abu Selmeyah, director of Gaza's main Shifa hospital, told Reuters.

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International Law is clear on this.

Article 19 of the First Convention provides that medical facilities shall not be attacked in any circumstances, but shall at all times be respected and protected. It goes on to provide that the responsible authorities shall ensure that those facilities are, so far as possible, situated where attacks against military objectives do not imperil their safety.