Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

No.But I haven't heard of serious speculation within Israel.

I would attach more significance to that as Israelis have more at stake than us ,including responsibility

The US has not abandoned diplomacy. Not sure why you just go and state that as if it is some axiom?

You'd want to wake up as well as invasion of Iraq was pushing 20 years ago now and I think the political environment in the US and desire for interventions of any sort has changed beyond all recognition. Much debate there now about them even supplying weaponry to Ukraine, which is amazing. One of their parties main Presidential candidates is quite likely to end participation in NATO if elected.

Lookit, what else can you call what Putin/Russia is doing but a "violent adventure", it is funny how using the term irks you and gets under the skin when it is not referring to the US or some Western country. That war is not even about Russia's self interest in my opinion. If you think likes of China (I won't mention Russia or NK or Iran...) are fully rational, or in some way they will be an improvement over the US & Co. (and their "hypocricies") and foster greater order and peace in the world you are asleep and dreaming again.

We'll see how much safer the multipolar world is when the US has retreated further, mainly sticks to trade and relations with its neighbourhood and group of allies + almost every mid sized country on Earth have built their own nuclear bombs (for "self defence") and ICBMs to put them on because they don't trust others and are afraid of being attacked.

I predict not very!

Really, yet you no doubt believe all the "casualty reports" from Hamas controlled media...hmmm

Remind me ...did you call out all the now disproven propaganda about the hospital carpark 500 killed rocket?

And the UN and the WHO.

Incidentally, the regime actually admits that thousands of Gazan civilians have been killed. I'm quite puzzled by regime supporters denying this, when the IDF repeatedly say that it is an unfortunate necessity in their eyes that thousands of civilians have to die whilst they go after Hamas.

It's like there's a cognitive dissonance. People support the launching of the rockets into Gaza by Israel but choose to not believe Hamas when they say they landed.

I wonder what the world would be saying if Russia told Ukrainian citizens to flee to Western Ukraine to escape the war zone and then bombed churches in Western Ukraine.

Israel have really pushed themselves into a corner. The whole world knows they have overreacted in terms of the disproportionate killing of civilians including over 4000 children. Even their staunch allies in the US are begging then to stop the massacres and let in much needed food, water and medical supplies.

two things.

1. Historically the Health Ministry in gaza has provided accurate information.
2. Historically Brietbart lies.

So although we can't be sure about either, the gazan health ministry has been more trustworthy.

IDF spokesman was interviewed by RTE's Drivetime and didn't deny for a moment when it was put to him that many thousands of Gazan civilians had been killed - his line was to say that the killings were justified and necessary in order to bomb Hamas.

It's as if Israel supporters are denying to themselves just how brutal and hardline the actions are, even when the regime is openly admitting it.

Visegrad 24 is often sourced here by pro bombing civilians in Gaza posters . It has been claimed it is a quality source of news. I can’t link to them here but their tweets today are disgusting and racist.

Israel calling off the investigation into rapes carried out on the 7th.

They're not even trying to hide their bias and the fact they are a propaganda outlet. All they do is post pro-Israel stuff and seemingly go trawling the web looking for stories to show Palestinians in bad light. This would be bad enough, but as you say, many of the things they are now posting about Muslim people are openly racist and reprehensible. If they were operating out of Ireland or the UK, they would probably be shut down as a hate channel.

That was the first time I mentioned him on here, and it was entirely appropriate. I didn't even mention him by name but alluded to the fact that he is the GOP forerunner, which he is.

You've been running interference for him for years on this website. Outdide if his own thread, any time he's mentioned, you're straight in there trying to shut it down.

It's very odd.

So where is that authoritative stat. you quote from? It must include every time the US sold a country weapons or something, or perhaps publically sided with one group or other in their internal politics (an "intervention" of sorts I suppose).

I used terms like "you are asleep/dreaming" as regards the trajectory of the world as the US disengages + is consumed with internal problems and the power of likes of China or the various regional dictatorships and autocracies grows, because it is the most polite + benign explanation.

The other option is that you are looking foward to and desire the obvious outcomes ([even] more chaos and violence in the world) despite all the tears shed over civilians in Palestine here.