Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

The Marvels actually has positive reviews by sounds of it. So I'll be going I guess.

Interesting

Jeremy had a bit of the what was he watching about him. Not a movie that will have "legs" i reckon ,

I'm hoping it's just a load of neck beards being nasty. Iman Vellani doesn't deserve a shrug and a "That's showbiz" as she gets kicked out.

I think it'd be hard to fcuk up Deadpool given Ryan Reynolds is untouchable and likely wont let an Origins level butchering of the character happen again.

Deadpool will be the only MCU film in 2024.

Captian America, Thunderbolts and Blade are now pushed to 2025.

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The COVID element and now the writers strike are absolutely huge issues, that are generally downplayed. Add the unfortunate death of one of the actors who was going to lead the MCU and you can see the mess they're in compared to the relatively smooth early phases.

Due to COVID everything has been pushed back so many times (e.g., the Marvels was supposed to originally come out the summer of 2022) and it even changed order of the movies causing huge rewrites and reshoots. I agree with many on Wanda wasn't smoothly transitioning to MoM, but that is understandable when you look at the context that MoM was originally supposed to come out before No Way Home and Loki, so a load of stuff that had to be changed when the order was flipped.

MCU was a well oiled machine from Phase 1 to 3 which was ran smoothly and was turned up to go faster and faster, with more movies coming out. When it got to Phase 4, and you add in Disney+, it was starting to go a bit too fast and then the wrench of COVID was thrown into it which blew the whole thing up. Rather than stopping the machine completely and fixing everything before slowly getting going again, they just tried to put some tape on it each time it broke and fight fires while maintaining the same fast pace.

It does look like they've listened and the most recent pushback of movies from 2024 into 2025, leaving just Wolverine between now and 2025, and pausing others. It seem like they're trying to finally reset everything and get that path to move forward.

The great thing about the infinity saga was that the films were for the most part their own films, with hints at interconnecting - GotG, for example, had the power stone which would be important in later films but you didn’t need to know that to watch the film, it was really just a maguffin.

The post infinity saga has sort of been all over the place because a lot of the films have either spent a lot of time explaining things that you’ll need to know for later, like the multiverse, or introducing characters that will be in their own thing at some point. Theres too much emphasis on other people existing rather than a core plot that will need to bring these people together at some point. It’s almost too focused on the fact that it’s a shared universe.

I think you overstate the energy , its been so well flagged for years now that it will be more ho hum, Its not like any youtubers cause a film to do better or worse in cinemas as most movie goes wont even know they exist. Maybe just maybe their analysis is more accurate and more predictive, its very unlikely they are correct for totally the wrong reasons

I don't think streaming can be underestimated either in the hit cinemas have taken. A lot of people seem to be extremely comfortable now waiting for something to arrive on Disney+ or on Video on Demand

The "Event" nature of the genre seems to have simply passed. No Way Home was the last one to capture something of the essence of it for me.

I also feel that Millennials are still the key audience for these films and are the most likely to go to repeat viewings, but as they get older and priorities shift, the need to rush out and see these films is gone to a degree.

I dont know Youtubers I dont watch but as of now, the most common youtuber I watch is Mr H Reviews for general Hollywood takes cos he puts out nice and short 10 min videos which is about my level of interest, the question is if you see all criticism of hollywoood as "not analysis" then you may miss out on why general audiences dont like particular content or why a particular project is likely to fail before the trailers are even out.