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Let me push that stool in for you: the off-topic thread

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Ah Drinkstore is still very good. They sometimes have very well priced whiskey, funnily enough. If you watch some of their pricing at times they are 10 euro lower than CWS on odd things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,360 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    While we're on the subject of off-licences \ outlets, does anyone know what happened with L Mulligans Whiskey Shop?

    I thought if it closed of eg covid or lease reasons there would at least have been a so long and thanks or something on their Twitter, but just seemed to vanish.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,746 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Unit has something else in it now I think. Have to assume COVID closure; possible contributor to that is that one of the owners of L Mulligans went to her parents in Australia and was there for the duration (may also have had nothing to do with it)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    I did forget about Drinkstore, and the comment on Spirits is correct, they are often a fair bit cheaper than CWS.

    I like their walk-in cooler room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Have they taken to displaying prices on all their beers?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    I haven't been in in ages, so I don't know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Anyone able to recommend a beer festival in Belgium/Germany in the month of June?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Never been, but the Bruges Beer Festival is a biggie. 10-11 June: https://www.brugsbierfestival.be/en/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    I dont know if they had some flooding or plumbing issues but Underdog smells pretty bad. Brought some 'non-craft beer' friends there last night and they insisted we leave after 1 drink, I don't blame them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Does anyone have any particular recipes that uses beer? I know there are beer braised beef recipes out but curious what others do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭tommiet


    beer can chicken. I use a can of Wicklow wolf red ale. just Google beer can chicken, a real crowd pleaser during summer BBQ days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,237 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    A dark porter/black IPA in a stew.

    I've used Corona in a slow cooker mexican chicken, similar to this https://www.threeolivesbranch.com/slow-cooker-mexican-beer-chicken

    An American lite beer in chili.

    I've braised apples in a pumpkin ale with brown sugar before putting them in a pie before.

    I didn't enjoy Guinness bread but I've had it in the back of my mind to use something like franziskaner in a banana bread recipe.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,198 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Let's say that you use a really high alcohol, dark, flavorful beer like Guinness Stout.

    ?!?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    There are many Guinness stouts around the world. They go up to 8% ABV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭tommiet


    It's a fun way to cook chicken, I use a purpose built chicken holder I got in Aldi, haven't gotten any complaints yet, plus no has ever gotten sick.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,198 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Sure but if something similar to what we call Foreign Extra is sold in the US, it's hardly marketed as "Guinness Stout" as then what would they call the common or garden 4.2% product?

    'Irish = alcoholics so it must be very strong' seems to be at work here

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    At the risk of going on-topic here, there's no product called "Guinness Stout" anywhere. In the US you have Guinness Draught (4.2%), Guinness Original (5%), Guinness Extra (6.5%) and Guinness Foreign Extra (7.5%). I would guess that Guinness Special Export (8%) exists on the grey market somewhere, likewise the various versions of Foreign Extra not marketed there by Diageo.

    Also, I think it's highly likely that the author doesn't know much about beer so I wouldn't read a lot into their detail on that aspect of the article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    No one seems to care. I've posted links to these articles before. I think people like the theatre of it and are convinced it improves the chicken, even if it doesn't!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    On cooking with beer :

    I always use whatever cheap lager I can find instead of water in Irish Stew (not a brown, thickened beef stew - an Irish Stew) . If you make Irish Stew try this. You'd never know there's beer in it but the broth much tastier.

    I've done a chicken stew with hommelbier in the past. I'd reckon any hoppy full flavoured pale beer would do.

    Lots of beef carbonade type dishes with dark Belgians.

    Try different beers instead of stout in beef stews. Dunkleweiss is lovely in a stew, for example.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    For meat stews I usually use a decent pour of stout or dark/red ale. Same goes for chilli, but I'd also use lager in it as well.

    Mic's sauces are quite nice as well and feature Galway Bay beers in some of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Thanks for the recommendations, all.

    Beef carbonade sounds promising - Googled a reciepe, and BBC Good Food suggest a Belgian ale / Trappist ale. Exactly what I had in mind. Do you have a particular one you usually follow?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    For cakes, I use Nigella Lawson's Guinness recipe and just substitute whatever stout I have going, usually a pastry/adjunct stout that I want a taste of but wouldn't drink the whole can!

    Porter cake is another nice one, I just use the one on the Odlum's website. Pretty straightforward.

    I've made caramel sauce with a particularly sweet/sticky flavoured imperial stout. Couldn't hack drinking it, made a nice sauce though, used it on pancakes and ice cream.

    I've also used lager to make caramelised onions to go on burgers & hot dogs, they were delicious!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Speaking of recipes, my brother made buttered beer last year at Christmas. https://www.historyextra.com/membership/historical-recipe-buttered-beere/

    I can't say I enjoyed it but he thought it was alright...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    No particular recipe, no.

    . Most of the online recipes are very much the same as any beef stew I might make but with Belgian beer.

    I think I did a bit of shallow research some years ago and came up with the following ideas. I don't remember whether I ended up using bacon or not. Other than that : Only beef and onions and beer with bread and mustard on top. No, carrots, no flour, no stock, no tomatoes/puree, no garlic . I probably did use bay leaf and thyme,and, of course, salt and pepper. Super simple.

    Brown beef really well in batches. I like big cubes of shin. Lots of onions and brown well, too. I like a dark Belgian. Chimay blue area. You don't need to quite cover the meat with beer. Cook in oven for around 3 hours, low.

    I also, sometimes, like a little spice added. Just a tiny bit so you'd almost not taste it. A couple of cloves, a couple of allspice berries, I little bit of cinnamon stick, a bit of star anise, few thin slices of fresh ginger. Less is more, only whole spices, no ground mixed spice, please.

    Can't find the recipe that inspired all this, now. It's really rich. I liked it and it's a bit different from every other beef casserole (which I love, but was making anyway).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭adaminho


    I've made this soup before.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Oh, forgot that I made a kreik sauce to go with duck breast once. Was, basically reduced kreik and stock with a bit of fresh kriek thrown in at the end. Was good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Made the beef carbonade over the weekend - used this recipe as a base to begin: https://www.deliciousmagazine.co.uk/recipes/beef-carbonnade/

    It will be added to the rotation to be sure. Will tweak it with the spices @the beer revolu suggested, and maybe bring the onions darker.  



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    While that's an interesting article, why is it about Guinness and not stout/porter, generally?



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