General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

I mean, the first part is just false. There have been chants in the stadium for years wanting the Glazers out. There were protests against them when they took ownership in 2005 and even in 2010 when the club were going through a very successful spell - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/8671176.stm

Backing managers imo is not the same as giving them a blank cheque to do whatever they want with it. It's reckless. Pep said yesterday "I have said many times we go in the same direction, the chairman, the manager, the CEO.." United don't have a vision and new owners will continue to spend money that the club have generated themselves. Remember the Glazers have not spent a penny of their own money but leveraged it with millions and millions of debt where if everything goes wrong, the club could go bust.

Can you answer these Q's for me. Why don't United have a sporting director yet every big club do? Why are they overspending on flops? How many of these flops would you have signed for your club and who do you support? Do you think spending loads and loads of money equals success? Is Antony good value at £80million? Do you think the Glazers are good owners and would you like them at the club you support?

They could’ve had Antony for £40/50 million 3 months prior to buying him but didn’t and delayed it. Then when it was coming to the end of the transfer window, Ajax had them over a barrel and sold him at an inflated price.

Yeah they ‘backed him’ but by being negligent and having non footballing people at the club, they wasted time where that extra £30/40 mil could’ve been spend elsewhere. Because they then panicked, not a lot of due diligence would’ve been done to see if he actually has potential or a right fit for the club. In hindsight, we see that was a wrong move and he’s quite a petulant player and a one trick pony. Would you have him at your club? Just because the owners decide to spend huge amounts of money on a player, doesn’t mean they can just wash their hands with it and say we’ve done our job.

Ive mentioned previously that it’s dangerous to give a manager so much transfer power. Without a proper sporting director or infrastructure in place, a club ends up with a mish mash of players that don’t suit the next manager and become overvalued assets. Klopp wanting Julian Brandt but being vetoed and getting Salah is the perfect example. If Klopp had his way, Liverpool never would’ve had arguably one of their best ever players.

That is just one example with Antony, there are countless other examples. Sancho another high profile.

Of course the manager has say on what price is paid for players, even at a basic level of the manager knowing there is a budget and not wanting the club to blow it all on one player.

Only cheat clubs with unlimited budgets don't care about the price, everywhere else the manager knows the opportunity cost. £100m on Antony means less for other positions and the manager has the right to make that point.

Ten Hag knew Antony, he knew what price was being agreed. He can't wash his hands of the whole thing and pretend he is nothing but a passenger at the club.

At what point are serious questions going to be asked of Michael Oliver? Another controversial call by him yesterday while involved in a Man City game. Maybe it's coincidence but after he went off on that paid trip to the UAE, that link is always going to be there.

He is publicly a Newcastle fan, and a result of this, he is banned from officiating Newcastle games. For years, he was also banned from doing the games of Newcastle relegation rivals. Just to counter the claims of bias. When does he get banned from doing the games of Newcastle top 4 rivals? Arsenal and Man Utd could fall into this category and have had ball calls given against them this year by Oliver.

Bullshit, I literally said the words:

I even called it "my" office and "my" response when I posited about Arnold reporting a deal was agreed, and I'd say its pretty clear I don't actually have an office at Carrington.

What is 100% about that? How can I be any clearer that it was my own opinion?

Misrepresentation? To misrepresent I would have to present your opinion in the first place, and I didn't, I presented mine. So jog on.

Feel better?

You have been firing off insult after insult, I'm not sure what response you expected.

You called me a bore of the highest order who spoke nonsensical shite, now I'm just a child.

Seriously, cop on.

If only the team showed as much fight as the fans.

All this discussion about Antony but whats mind boggling for me is that he has been a regular in Brazil side for last few years (with this years troubles excluded)

Looking here at his Brazilian appearances and I think I'm right in saying that his only starts for Brazil have been the final 2 games of WC Qualification (when they were already assured qualification and top spot), and then the final group stage game of the WC itself (when they were already assured qualification and top spot).

Outside the main 3/4 attackers, Brazil are stuck for players in attack at the moment from what I can see especially with Neymar out for the foreseeable future now.

That act of petulance from Antony on Sunday, well it was not surprising. You'd think he would try and keep that stuff out of the public eye considering the allegations against him as it doesn't exactly give an image of a cool, calm & collected lad.

Makes it all the more baffling that Martinelli, who managed 15G 5A in a title competing team fails to get game time. A lot of behind the doors politics when it comes to the Seleção...