How long until we see €2 a litre and will it push more to EV's faster?

If you really cared you could get rid of your cars.

Nobody cares really.

OPEC quite bullish about annual demand increasing until 2045.

Coal production this year expected to exceed last year's record.

Climate change is a fair accompli at this point.

The problem is the average person just can't do what you did.

For example all the people from war zones to those living in tents at the Electric Picnic site can't do it.

I've PV in myself, 9kW, and it's an absolute dream, but not every can do it.

All our food comes mostly from fossil fuels, fertilizer, delivery, harvesting etc.

It's really wrong to be penalising people who have no choice but to drive an ICE when the outcome will be the same anyway.

Cheapest 2015 leaf on carzone is 7.5k

The rest of your arguments have zero credibility when you consistently claim you can get a leaf for 3k.

There are no EV's out there for the "poor" people as you call them. If we are to make these cars we need to mine them out of the ground and ship them around the world using fossil fuels.

Then we have aviation, I don't think any of the Irish fans in Paris really care about carbon emissions.

Then we have agriculture. I like my steak, not giving that up to reduce cattle numbers.

Then there's Santa, all shipped in from China made from plastic derived from fossil fuels. Can't see anybody wanting to cancel Santa.

I've said it already coal production is increasing. OPEC are bullish.

A few EV's on dondeal won't change the outcome here.

That Leaf was the exception rather than the norm.It had 350km done so that's why it was being given away for 3.5k.

My point stands 2015 leaf's are going for double what you have claimed.

Reply to me when you see 2015 leafs being consistently sold for 3k.

You really think 10 EV's on dondeal will change the course of history.

You are deluded.

Well I've installed panels. As an investment though. Its great tech.

But it won't change the outcome, same as 10 second hand EV's on donedeal won't change it.

I've pointed out to you several times that global coal production is increasing. OPEC are expecting growth in consumption to 2045.

There's really no stopping climate change at this point. Nothing you or I do will alter it.

We've already got critical speed / mass. This will be very quick now. Even in conservative Ireland, fully electric cars outsold petrols, (plug in) hybrids and diesels last month for the very first time. In just another few years time almost nobody will buy new cars with combustion engines. There is no need for any ban in 2030 or 2035, people will have switched way before then

You don't seem to understand this global transition. The likes of China is far ahead of Europe and the USA in terms of adoption of renewable electricity and electric cars. Even if climate change wasn't a factor, this transition would go ahead anyway.

Unkept- I don’t mean this in a bad way- but how much did that setup of two EVS plus enough solar panels and I presume a battery in the house, cost you?

How much debt did you take on for that setup?

Do you think most people would have access to that debt? Do you think “the average person in the world” could do “half of what you’ve done”?

What's your 10 year global forecast for coal, oil and gas consumption please?

Duty and vat must be above €1/litte.

Level the playing field and who will be switching?

We are engaging in costly windowdressing here.

Perfectly fine ICE cars will be scrapped and replaced with freshly mined EV's.

But you said there won't be a need to incentivise a switch.

Now you are admitting it's higher and higher taxes on ICE's that will keep the switch going.

I've seen perfectly fine ICE's scrapped in the past, when the motor tax on big 2.0+ engines was around €1000.