Russia - threadbanned users in OP

It is not just human lives that putin is sending into the meat grinder in Ukraine but increasingly out of date equipment that although still dangerous and capable of killing maybe easier to destroy than the equipment that was sent in to invade Ukraine with the first wave of troops last year. Will the moskovytes have much ability to continue fighting effectively with troops that are increasingly only partially trained and using equipment designed decades ago?

4- How can democracies decide helping Ukraine is too expensive when not providing them with the equipment they need to stand up to putin would be massively more expensive if they are encouraged by any sort of success in their empire building?

I'm pretty sure that Israel has way more equipment than it needs and probably some of the most technically advanced in the world. While the fat bloated American war industry spends enormous amounts of money on R&D and weapon development, Israel has been perpetually preparing for an actual war on it's own land. Very very different motivations.

Incidentally, whenever history on this era is written I think that Netanyahu will come out badly from it. A man with no morals, he sold that mobile phone spyware to so many dictators and general scum to try and play every side of the street. I believe the world is a lesser place from his actions.

if Russia knew what was about to happen I believe they would have tried to prevent it for this exact reason. As you suggest Iran's drone factories will likely be wiped out in Israeli reprisals strike. Senior Quds figures may be targeted too. The only thing that might prevent this from happening is if America fears a wider war breaking out , they may put pressure on Israel behind the scenes not to strike Iran or to do so in a limited capacity. I doubt Israel will be in the mood to listen though. This is an intelligence failure that will live long in the memory of Israeli society.

Nowadays everyone has a mobile phone for recording.

The footage from the concert goers showed the Palestinians coming in on motorised paragliders into the concert.

Further footage later by one of the Palestinians showed the woman being kidnapped and pleading for her life being driven off on a motorcart by Palestinians back to Gaza and her male partner being led off on foot by the armed Palestinians.

These fighters were highly desensitised to killing and rape and murder of women and children.

This alone leads me to think these guys were in Ukraine and got away with that crap there and it's now accepted as a modis operandi of how to fight.

The west dithering on finishing the war in Ukraine quickly is now biting back hard as Russia will encourage the terrorist groups worldwide to wage war on all things western.

They will always be given top priority

If you consider Gaza as an Israeli created ghetto then flattening it will make Israel the very evil it was created to escape.

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Couldnt post the link because boards are having a bad day

Now there are pictures from a tent in the rave where the youngsters tried to hide but were found by hamas and brutally butchered

Now maybe these kids were naïve as you say, but were they naïve enough to deserve to be butchered, because right now it kind of seems that you do think that way and definitely dont show any sympathy for them or their families

You seem like the ultimate keyboard warrior

Ok fair enough

This is a hotbed of a topic so emotions are going to be high

There are no angels on either side of this conflict, but yesterday and whats probably continuing today in Gaza to those hostages is totally brutal

There's a different thread for the Israeli Palestine conflict

We have mods for that,

And both conflicts are closely related

Its a complicated situation and heads are hot over this

But total respect for your answer

And yes your right, this is the Ukraine thread, they maybe connected but both are so big they need there own thread

Only thing thinking here that might happen for Ukraine is that Iran might slow down supplying Russia with drones etc. especially if they believe that they might be in a conflict with Israel soon if Israel does attack iran after what is happening in Israel. They might be of the opinion a conflict with Israel might be on the cards in the next few weeks and we need all weaponery available to us and not supplied onto Russia.