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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    I'm in over 4 weeks waiting for a headlamp from NL for a model3. It doesn't affect me that much as I have alternatives but if one would pay for a rental I can see the costs ramping up.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Took bmw 3 months to get my O2 sensor for the 530e. Ordered in Dec 22 and fitted in March 23.

    So no difference really.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    All Euro parts are centralised in NL and all sent to SC via surface mail only



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭September1


    It is a big difference, I think you missed point about insurance. It is very unlikely to to damage O2 sensor due to careless parking. This is completely different situation as this frustrates only BMW customer. If you don't mind me asking what car has BMW provided as replacement for those 3 months?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    No car.

    The car was still drivable in fairness. My comment was in response to the long wait time for parts.

    Post edited by Gumbo on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭penno




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,633 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Christ not that again. "The car just started driving off by itself, I swear".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Brought to you by Shell.

    Look over there pls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Meanwhile in Barack O’Bama Plaza….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I heard there was one over doing promotions, guess that must be the one

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Good spot. Those Rivians are pretty nice, I had a poke around one over in California last year, quite a few of them driving around.

    The R1S (the non-pickup SUV version) was rarer on the roads but looked like the better option to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,633 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Don't show @ELM327 that Rivian. He'll be sick with envy 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,024 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    It's on the FB EV owners page, somebody has moved over here from the States and brought this with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,102 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Saw it on FB this morning. Between that and the lewis motors F150 being a fair bit out of budget (I think it will come down in time as he's building in a wedge of profit according to my maths), this has been a week filled with envy in the ELM327 house. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    There's also now a photo of a Lucid Air spotted in Jervis St. last weekend on fb... alongside an electric Mondeo...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,315 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Sounds like adaptive cruise control was on and he could not turn it off nor brake. It's very unlikely the brakes failed and the cruise control could not be turned off. Also holding the start stop button should turn off the car.

    I expect it's driver error, maybe a floor mat stuck under the brake pedal but the article is unclear on what was done to try stop car and how it was eventually turned off. Errors after the fact may be related to the crash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,102 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Some very interesting EVs around.

    I also reserved a Fisker Alaska in the case they ever sell to ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    More EV trucks (the articulated kind)

    Towards the end one of the prototypes was setting out on a longer range journey:

    -40 tonnes fully loaded

    -1,000km roundtrip

    -1 charging stop

    Electric trucks are here to stay 😁

    EDIT: I'm trying to put some cost comparison of an electric truck to a diesel one. Quick look at Google tells me a fully loaded truck consumes 30l/100km on average. At €1.85/l that's €55.50 for a 100km journey

    The Mercedes truck seems to consume 120kWh/100km fully loaded. Assuming they're paying Ionity subscription rate of €0.50/kWh that's €60 for the same journey

    Cost is comparable, but still not exactly a clear winner for the electric. I assume part of the sales pitch is that companies can charge them at their own depots at night for a cheaper price

    I can see an incentive of free tolls for trucks to help adoption. I also suspect there'll be a ULEZ proposed for Dublin at some point which electric trucks will get an exemption from

    There's also the V2G argument, but I'm not sure it sells as well for HGVs. A truck that's sitting idle is losing money, I imagine the likes of DHL will swap drivers and try to keep their trucks moving 24 hours if possible

    Post edited by the_amazing_raisin on

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,633 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Dublin bus finally deployed the first two BEV double deckers yesterday. Made in Ireland too! 350kWh usable, 150kW CCS charging, but they don't need to be charged during the day, just overnight at the depot





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭wassie


    Looks like a much smoother ride when stopping and starting vs an oil burner.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Any idea of the purchase price of such an electric tractor unit ?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    I suppose a better metric would be how much more would the electric one be in %

    I'm sure a new truck is easily be well above 100K



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    No idea honestly, but I imagine there'll be a significant premium over a diesel tractor unit

    I suspect a lot of these will be sold to fleet customers before they take orders for independent haulers

    Most of those deals tend to keep the purchase price obscured to prevent other customers trying to replicate a good discount

    I also suspect that Mercedes will chuck in some extras, like free maintenance, to sweeten the deal. An electric truck should require considerably less upkeep so they're unlikely to lose money and will relieve any concerns the customer may have about new technology

    The point I'm making is that sometimes people see a deal like (just making up an example) DHL buying 100 electric trucks for €25 million

    Some higher lever maths tells you that's €250k per truck, which is probably a lot for a truck. Again, just to emphasise, I pulled those numbers out of thin air

    But when you dig into these deals you often see it includes things like driver and maintenance training, servicing costs over a number of years and perhaps installation of chargers at a bunch of locations

    Plus maybe a power purchase agreement with a Mercedes partner charging network

    Those are all considerable costs by themselves and make figuring out the true cost per unit very difficult

    Anyway, that's just my words of warning before any details of large truck purchases start coming out

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I wonder if that'll have a knock on for driver health. Driving a truck is well know for being a very bad job for physical and mental health.

    Long hours, the need for constant concentration and sometimes living worse than a homeless person all combine to some pretty bad health outcomes

    It's part of the reason that not many younger people are taking it up as a profession, the money just isn't worth the hassle

    Driving a much quieter and smoother truck might take some of the stress out and improve driver health

    Hopefully the EU's new rules around charging networks might also have some guidelines for rest stops added on. They could really do with including proper lounge facilities for truck drivers to relax. Shower and changing rooms and maybe some exercise machines to combat the otherwise sedentary lifestyle would also be good

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭wassie


    That Jay Leno video posted the other day on the Tesla truck really highlighted that for me just how effortless it was for the driver.

    Post edited by wassie on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Back on the insurance situation in the UK, thought this video was an interesting chat on the topic

    Seems insurers have lost a lot of money there over the past year and are trying to recoup it

    There's a lot of people in the comments talking about how all of there insurance has gone up by 30-40%. Doesn't seem EV related, it's a general increase across the board

    Hopefully it doesn't spread here. I did a quick quote there for my ID.4 and it's within €15 of when I renewed in January, so the situation seems stable for now

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    “Unlike other campers (or caravans) that rely on diesel heating and gas for cooking, the Mink-E is powered by electricity, which can be charged through its EV charging socket.

    That means that if you own an EV with vehicle-to-load capacity, like the current Kia EV6, you can effectively run the entire Mink-E set-up completely off-grid, for as long as the camper and EV’s batteries hold out”




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Slight correction to the article, the weight is 510kg, not grams

    If they'd managed to pack all that into half a kilogramme then those lads are wasted on campervans, they should be working for SpaceX 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,633 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    510g for GBP30k

    That's more expensive than pure gold 😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    More expensive than pure heroin 😱

    At least, I assume it is... 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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