Saw it on FB this morning. Between that and the lewis motors F150 being a fair bit out of budget (I think it will come down in time as he's building in a wedge of profit according to my maths), this has been a week filled with envy in the ELM327 house. 😁
It's on the FB EV owners page, somebody has moved over here from the States and brought this with them.
Don't show @ELM327 that Rivian. He'll be sick with envy 😁
Good spot. Those Rivians are pretty nice, I had a poke around one over in California last year, quite a few of them driving around.
The R1S (the non-pickup SUV version) was rarer on the roads but looked like the better option to me.
I heard there was one over doing promotions, guess that must be the one
Meanwhile in Barack O’Bama Plaza….
Brought to you by Shell.
Look over there pls.
Christ not that again. "The car just started driving off by itself, I swear".
Low cost could be 'all fur coat, and no knickers'
No car.
The car was still drivable in fairness. My comment was in response to the long wait time for parts.
It is a big difference, I think you missed point about insurance. It is very unlikely to to damage O2 sensor due to careless parking. This is completely different situation as this frustrates only BMW customer. If you don't mind me asking what car has BMW provided as replacement for those 3 months?
All Euro parts are centralised in NL and all sent to SC via surface mail only
Took bmw 3 months to get my O2 sensor for the 530e. Ordered in Dec 22 and fitted in March 23.
So no difference really.
I'm in over 4 weeks waiting for a headlamp from NL for a model3. It doesn't affect me that much as I have alternatives but if one would pay for a rental I can see the costs ramping up.
Part true. My refurb battery shipped from the Netherlands to Tesla Sandyford via truck and boat because of weight and hazard presumably. That meant I had a Model X loaner - worth the guts of €100k - for almost 3 weeks. With free tolls and fuel too 😁
Was it not the case that Tesla parts came from the Netherlands and were delivered by the slowest means possible, if I was an insurer paying for a car rental or limited secured parking at a repairer I would not be happy.
Add in the fact of brexit and paperwork on each part, who on earth would want the hassle of it.
Its different for legacy supply chains, experience and volume.
Impact 😆😆
I posted that a few days ago. Many don’t realise the power difference from their previous diesel/petrol generally speaking.
One potential elephant in the room re Tesla insurance.
Is people sitting into a much more powerful car then they ever had before.
Like going from a 2.0 TDI 150 to a Long range Model 3.
Wouldn't be hard to imagine that NOT ending well if some drivers are careless.
Would impact insurance rates.
Which EV did you have earlier?
Increased cost of repairs could be also possible explanation.
There are many garages that do panel repairs, it is replacement that is problem. Good to hear that Carcraft handles that, I must have missed this info on the group. However I think one thing is us repairing cars and another is insurance route.
I think it is repairable, I think there could be some untypical solutions by Tesla that for now scare away various garages from getting authorization from Tesla or even handling independent work. I wonder if there are any body parts that Tesla would not sell to independent garages.
I think it would be foolish to discount the practice of price walking in the insurance industry, which is as alive and well today as any other time.
My renewals are typically 10-15% higher than going in as a new business quote with the same company. As a result, I go in as a new customer every time
Pricing in insurance is supposedly based on the risk and costs of repair or replacement, but half the time the prices seem to be picked from thin air
My insurance went down 20% (in or around 100 beans) by moving to a Tesla.
No penalty whatsoever, in fact the opposite.
Some people bring up that the model Y is unrepairable.
Below is the Model Y front chassis leg including the crash (crumple zone) structure: It's made of steel and bolts on to the gigacasting which is right behind it. Ahead of the crash structure is horizontal crash bar behind the front bumper. All of the bolts straight on and no special tools are needed. Once the crash is severe enough to start to deform (the much stronger than steel I should mention) the inner wing structure the car is well and truly a write off.
Image by courtecy of this video:
(https://youtu.be/dyde8G7mp-4?si=Hn9q-6jwWXesPYPU)
Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo takes on the Aussie Desert over 5000km......now that's range anxiety.
Was listening to this journalist on podcast about this trip. The challenge was to do it on a showroom car - including factory wheels. They did have a couple of support vehicles (for all of the video production) which carried a few spare tyres, but they never got a flat.
A lot of planning went into scheduling charging stops, particularly it the outback where charging could be several hundred kms apart.
Porsche also published a series of articles on the trip.
The only thing I can think of for the increase for the M3 was value at the time. The MS was a 2016 car, the M3 a 2020 car.
With regards to panel repairs there are many. Ashmore Ryder for example have fixed many on the FB group. Carcraft in Fairview can replace a panel or repair minor bumps. Just like any car really.
It is hard to be sure if premium for Tesla cars are increasing but even in your example newer, simpler, weaker and cheaper to fix vehicle seems to be more expensive. I see that EVO 5 was costly, but in my experience EV insurance was always keenly priced than ICE. This seems to be true for last 12 months - with only exception being Tesla. I do not see a reason for Tesla to be fundamentally more dangerous, hence I think that limited availability of garages that can do a panel replacement after small incident could be driving premiums up and/or reluctance to insure Tesla.
Insurance doesn’t actually punish Tesla. There’s one or 2 posts from specific people whose circumstances may be off the charts insurance wise.
As we all know, insurance is very personal and no 2 people get the same quote generally.
For example, I was paying €236 for a 762 bhp Model S.
I currently pay €396 for a 500bhp Model 3.
The Evo 5 was €996 and one of the taxis was €2036.
As you can see, I am not been punished on insurance for the Tesla.
Absolutely correct - but that all adds to the risk profile. Remember that ‘risk’ in an insurance context doesn’t mean the chances of you having a claim, it’s the ‘risk’ of them having to pay, and how much they have to pay :)
I did not meant punish in literal sense, in fact I think that issues could be caused by shortage of repairers and like Range Rovers in London this is driven by some underlying problem.
Insurers don’t ‘punish’ any specific car - it’s an industry that relies far too much on actuarial data and precedence, in order to adequately insure against similar claims in future.
the reason tesla insurance appears to be getting higher is purely down to the increasing amount of claim data available as they sell more of them - just like any other car.
things like VW’s, GM, Ford, Toyota etc share huge amounts of repairable parts across a wide range of vehicles; there’s decades of insurance data.
it’s not just the Y - another current example is trying to insure a Range Rover in London city due to the level of theft. A lot of insurers have simply stopped.
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