General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

Hold on a second here bud, I’m just quoting what Townsend said in response to someone saying he said it wasn’t a red.

casemiro got a red for an almost identical 'roll over the top of the ball' challenge earlier this season. FWIW I don't think either should have been red but if there was consistency you could just about accept it. There were a few challenges yesterday that seemed to be ignored in various games, a particularly high one on Rashfords knee comes to mind but there was another in a different game that I was convinced would be red and wasn't even given a yellow. Both, for my money, were worse than the Jones tackles yesterday or the Casemiro one earlier in the season.

The offside is probably the most disgraceful decision I can remember. Not because they gave offside, but because VAR clearly saw it wasn't, muddled up communication and didn't fix the error. Like some 4 year old child who broke a vase and runs off before anyone sees who was at fault. I don't remember anything like that happening before and I'm not sure it ever will again and for that reason Liverpool were absolutely screwed and not by something that 'evens out' in a season.

In relation to the VAR still, they pretty much do that on every tackle. The still is always on the point of contact on the opposition player. In the recent piece Howard Webb did on SKY you can hear one of the refs going to the monitor and saying 'Give me a still on the point of contact and then run through the clip' so it is clearly something they have decided on as a group, possibly believing that the default of them being called over is that they have missed something..so there's definitely an inherent bias in there but it's against everyone that is subjected to a VAR check rather than an individual player or team.

LLYod is right though, the reason it's so bad in England is that they are the only association (that I know of) who have tried to implement a system where the on field ref is almost infallible and so there's a reluctance to intervene or overturn their decisions. Everywhere else the VAR is considered an aid, only in England do officials think it is a slur on their ability.

Casermio wasn't sent off this year? Think he was sent off around the time the Spurs fella didn't get sent off and that's why VAR made the statement wasn't it?

That Rashford one was a really bad challenge.

Absolutely correct, honestly it’s been so bad at United that all the games and seasons are blending into one.

Decisions yesterday have not even made up for a fraction of this mistake.

He said it was excessive force and deserved a red. He was the only one of ex players to say it though.

Yes that’s it exactly. He’s saying the law is wrong but it is a red card

honestly think Andros was going out of his way to be controversial yesterday to get a permanent job.

80% of his posts are little digs at Utd. We all know the game.

To be fair it is funny watching them trying to twist things into an anti Utd post.

At least they aren't hiding their bias I suppose 😂😂

For starters Casemiro was out of control, thought he was Liu Kang. Jones was on his feet, won the ball and had nowhere near the force of Casemiro's aerial lunge.

Ok I understand that point of view as well.

Would you say the Spurs player could see red for this tackle as it's from behind and could lead to a serious injury?

This tackle led to an ACTUAL injury, not a theoretical :he could have been badly hurt there if there was more force ', force which there wasn't there in Jones tackle.