General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

This was last season and resulted in Skipp having his head cut open. Yellow card.

There is no conspiracy against Liverpool as some seem to think. The officials are just completely incompetent.

Spurs fans are right to celebrate, they got a 96 minute winner. Every fan base would be the exact same.

See what's the point in this? Nothing similar happend yesterday to compare that to and the vast majority of fans, Liverpool or otherwise said he should have been sent off for that. You just come across a bit silly with your statement.

I am a fanatic Liverpool fan and I do not think there is any conspiracy.

For the last few years, the standard of referring in the PL has gone from average to really poor; every team in the league has people from all over the world as their backroom staff, as manager and as players. They need to introduce foreign referees and they would get the best as they pay a lot more, I think this would massively help.

Pundits do not help with their tribal loyalty, to show how poor yesterday was even Neville disagreed with some of the decisions against Liverpool.

The technology clearly works for offsides so again to hear pundits question other decisions is stupid; the reason the goal was not given is the VAR REFEREE said he checked it but for some unknown reason to everyone he was checking to confirm it was a goal EVEN though a goal was not given???

If they introduced audio, this error could not happen, the referee on the VAR ole would have to say Check complete the attacking player is onside, it is a goal. Why do they not allow that as along with goal line decisions, they are not subjective.

The same referee showed a still picture for the Jones tackle; the impact is a clear red though the impact was caused by his foot slipping on the top of the ball resulting in him having no control. If people think that is a clear red then on the wet pitches in winter or an Irish summer when a player slips and has the same impact, this has to be a red for consistency.

The same referee also on VAR gave Arsenal a goal last year that was offside because he did not have a camera to check it. Maybe best to see if he can be just be a referee as he might be better without seeing multiple replays:)

City have win 5 of the last 6 leagues; they will probably win this year also, in my opinion the only team that Pep would worry about is Liverpool; Arsenal could not have had a bigger chance than last year, they definitely will not win the league as like a golfer who 3 putts the last 4 holes of a major to lose by a couple of shots, when the change returns they rarely are stronger for the experience.

thats where i have an issue with all the pundits and dermot gallagher.

they go off on tangents rather than focusing on the law. based on that law, is the incident a red card offence?

its also a function of the weak ass presenters who are just happy to be there., rather than actually questioning these people

Apparently three of the officials yesterday reffed a game in UAE on the 28th of September. They must be awful stuck for officials over there if they're bringing these lads over.

Maybe the Premier League could award each team a point per apology received from PGMOL? Otherwise, stop apologising.

Is everything they say recorded ? If they weren't watching the match what were they doing?

Have a look into the Liverpool Thread and you will see my point. 2/3 different posters seem to be convinced that there is a conspiracy against Liverpool. Have a look online aswell, multiple people saying that there is an agenda against Liverpool by the Premier League/PGMOL.

In fairness I’ve seen it with other fans also so not just Liverpool but it’s referring problem. Not some sort of agenda against a certain team.

I’m a Spurs fan and can agree we got very lucky yesterday. Diaz should should have stood and first Jota yellow wasn’t even a free. He was brain dead in his second yellow and the Jones Red was on the verge of Yellow/red so could have went either way.

they should bring in the best ref's from europe, like is done with players.

the FA is too arrogant unfortunately

But you've people who overreact in every fan base. Just because there's a few going off on one doesn't mean that all fans of that team think the same. So posts along the lines of "they're out to get Liverpool" or "first decision that ever went against Liverpool" aren't helpful at all and come across as completely childish. Also replace Liverpool with any other team and it's the exact same.

Based on VAR communication last season Jones is not a red card. Now if everyone is given a red for the same tackle going forward than at least it'll be consistent (even if I don't think it is a red at all) but that won't happen, we'll see one or two between now and the international break and they'll be yellows.

No consistency, no accountability for refs have let it get to this stage.

best ref's not any foreign ref

I think this is the point: the UK implementation has been shambolic. The rest of the football world is getting on with VAR. It has been a huge net positive in the UEFA competitions. This is ultimately a really ugly manifestation of British exceptionalism in the Brexit era - they are intent on doing it their way, and the worse it goes, the more they go down a rabbit hole of implementing bespoke solutions to the bespoke problems their implementation has created.

The conspiracy theory here is not around Liverpool or any other club, but a real sense that the referees do not want this to succeed and are subtly sabotaging it.

But the notion that the EPL would become the one elite competition in top-level football not to use VAR is silly. That isn't a serious point.

VAR: PGMOL replaces official Darren England after Liverpool error

He needs to be sacked. The assistant on VAR probably as well. What happened yesterday was a disgrace? The red card needs looking into as well. Why did VAR first show a still image of the tackle in the worst possible light? Then slow motion bad angle replays. Neville, no fan of Liverpool said it shouldn't have been a red card. The lads in the studio, Redknapp and Townsend said it shouldn't have been a red card.