30k speed limits for all urban areas on the way

I am regularly in the Phoenix Park and I can tell you that the majority of cars (motorists) are not doing the posted 30km/h speed limit!

You can't solely rely on people's behaviours to change just because you've told them that they have to reduce their speed.

Wonder could insurance companies offer a substantial discount for motorists that agree to have speed recorded against limits. Technology mustn't be that far to allow this. Drivers who break speed limits regularly I'd imagine are more likely to attract claims.

Old review here

Can't see it working myself. Road limits are so random even a saint will get caught out from time to time.

Ever been hit by a car doing 60kph? Trust me…it hurts.

im sure it does, it not as much…car that hit me was doing 60+.. (in a 30 zone) thankfully it was just the door mirror that glanced off my arm. It was enough to take the bike from under me and I landed on the road. I was even more grateful that when I fell to the ground, the car coming towards me was able to stop before running over me.

BTW…I agree that 30kph is too slow in the Phoenix park with its current road design. They need to modify the roads (add chicanes, speed ramps etc.) to slow cars down. Expecting cars to stick to 30kph along Cheaterfield Ave. is unrealistic at the moment.

Independent of car speed it has already got so much safer to cross the road since the parking along the Avenue stopped because driver and pedestrian sightlines are so much better. I wouldn't be in favour of installing dedicated crossing points. I prefer being able to cross the road wherever using normal safe cross code procedure. Drivers should be considerate and careful everywhere in the park, not just if the road has stripes painted. It's not like the deer will ever restrict their crossings to designated points.

The park’s primary role should be for people to relax/recreation etc. Any road restrictions should be for motor vehicles. People should be free to cross wherever/whenever they wish. If designed appropriately it’s possible to cater for this. In short the OPW need to prioritise people over vehicles. If they did that then the changes needed are quite obvious. BUT, we all know that the changes needed will never be approved by our current politicians. The fact that they managed to remove the car paring along chesterfield ave is a miracle!

The majority of motorists are doing lower speeds than they were doing before the 30 kmph limit came into play.

Hope we'll see you all at the bike disco...

A good piece of propaganda maybe, but not much else. A genuinely "good piece" would explore a concept from a neutral lens, provide background, context etc. Good propaganda on the other hand, starts with the conclusion and works backwards, misleading or deceiving the reader as necessary to support the pre-ordained narrative.

At no point in your "good piece" did it point out that Ireland has among the world's best road safety records or that fatalities are so rare that they can be measured in the low single-digits per billion vehicle kilometres, both of which they could have determined by spending 5 minutes on wikipedia. Nor did it point out that cruising at low speeds like 30kph uses significantly more fuel than at more normal speeds like 50 or 60.

At no point did it try to estimate how much of people's time and fuel would be wasted by wallpapering main roads with absurdly low limits. And the author straight up lied by claiming that "default" would not be the same a "blanket" as we saw what 30kph as default would look like with Dublin City Councils "Love 30" campaign.

So your "good piece" is really just a collection of carefully chosen arguments, lies of omission and just straight up lies.

So much stop start driving in urban areas that fuel economy is irrelevant. An EV is going to be far more efficient.