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In the absence of any formal complaints or criminal investigations this will just add to the speculation and theories etc

Is there anybody "still" defending him on here?

I think some posters have an issue differentiating "defending Brand" with "having an issue with trial by media".

Where did I defend him at any point? Please point out a single post or stop this strawman nonsense.

You can just go from "its illegal" to "well its reprehensible"

People are more than free to not like someone because of what they do, but that doesnt make it bloody illegal.

so why did you say

buying a ranch and not speaking to anyone is what exactly?

It very difficult to be a celebrity AND not speak to anyone again. If your life is being a celebrity and you can no longer be that then your life has been destroyed.

And the obvious answer to that is, I know that I haven't done that and I know that no woman would have any sort of evidence for that. So no, of course no one would be happy to be accused of that in public, but at the very least if someone did start to accuse me of that I would start to question what elements of my behaviour led to that.

The women who have come forward about Brand have, at the very least, some forms of tangible evidence. And it's also backed up by Brand's own pattern of behaviour over many years.

I know I won't be accused of some of the stuff Brand is being accused of, because I have never acted remotely how he has publicly, never mind privately.

They don't seem as effective as they used to. I think Ian Hislop said you can't get the Super, Super injunctions anymore, or it is much harder to get them.

Phillip Green used them for years IIRC. That and NDA's meant the allegations didn't get out for years.

To an extent, I agree with you. With the likes of Musk, Peterson and Jones, they're all in the same realm of contrarians/alt-right/anti-mainstream and cancel culture so we shouldn't be surprised that they are supporting him.

However, given the nature of the allegations, it certainly doesn't help his cause to have Andrew Tate speaking up for him, given his own legal issues and the content he posts.

Of course. I would certainly try to think about my own behaviour, did I do anything which I didn't think crossed any line or boundaries at the time but maybe it did, what would I have done to that person that led to them accusing me of something I didn't do etc.

Even while defending myself because I know I didn't do whatever I was being accused of, self-reflection isn't a bad thing. Accusations tend to not just come out of nowhere, like a woman walking down the street sees me and decides "F*ck that guy, I'm going to try ruin his life for sh*ts and giggles". If I knew the accuser and had some form of interactions with her previously, yes I would be questioning what parts of my own behaviour led to whatever she's accusing me of.

Like if I was Russell Brand, I'd be asking myself "Should I have been in a relationship with a 16 year old when I was 31? Should I have been telling her how to keep the relationship secret from her parents? Should I have refused to go on set until a wardrobe assistant showed me her breasts? etc etc etc", rather than just digging my heels in and going "I was promiscuous and a bit cheeky back then, but really it's the establishment trying to take me down after all these years and I did nothing wrong!"

See again, there's the difference. I know I haven't behaved in any way near how Brand did. I know no one is going to accuse me of something I didn't do. It's actually not that hard to not cross those lines.

Indeed.

But it's the same logic as asking why didn't the victims go to the police/courts?

Injunctions aren't as effective as they used to be, so why bother? A small percentage of rape allegations get past the police to the CPS, and then to court, and then a conviction, plus the whole trauma of that whole process. Many decide not to bother.

It looks terrible that a grifting ballbag is defending another grifter?

Lol

In fairness, he appealed to that demographic by using the exact same defence as Tate and saying it's a political smear campaign.

But what if there are 9 grifting ballbags? Does that change it somehow?