Dispatches channel 4 expose **Read Opening Post before posting**

People who blindly defend him are moronic, no question. I would tend to say that people who blindly believe an accuser are also moronic though. For some reason one opinion is lauded and the other pounced on, despite them really being the same opinion. We dont know, we weren't there.

He is 100% an odious individual who I have never had any time for whatsoever. But neither his personality or the fact that he tends to attract morons have any bearing on his guilt or innocence.

SIGH!

So you would be cool and the gang with your employer stopping paying you while an investigation was underway?

Youtube is how this man makes his money. You might (ha!) not like him, but thats a fact. He has been prevented from making money because the pitchforks are out.

He was worth that before the false allegations though. What has he worked on since?

Can you let us know the magical figure one needs to have in the bank to make it ok to have your life destroyed and have to go into hiding?

Just for reference like.

He might "get off" because of the fact that its not illegal? What a bizarre attitude.

From Wikipedia

"Following the allegations leveled against him, Spacey maintained a lower profile and his career stalled.[74][75] In May 2021, it was announced that he had been cast in a supporting role as a police detective in the crime drama film The Man Who Drew God, directed by and starring Franco Nero, which is about a blind artist who is wrongly accused of sexually abusing a child.[76][77] The film reunited Spacey with Faye Dunaway, whom he directed in Albino Alligator. In August 2021, it was reported that he was filming in California for a small production, Peter Five Eight, directed by Michael Zaiko Hall.[78][79] In the movie, Spacey is said to play a charismatic serial killer.[80]

On November 3, 2022, Variety reported that Spacey was set to speak at the National Museum of Cinema and was going to receive a lifetime achievement award on January 16, 2023, despite the allegations against him.[81] On November 28, 2022, after winning a sexual battery lawsuit against him filed by Anthony Rapp, Spacey was cast in the British indie thriller Control. Its director, Gene Fallaize, dismissed concerns about working with Spacey.[82]

In 2022, Spacey was cast as the late Croatian leader Franjo Tudjman in the political drama Once Upon a Time in Croatia, directed by Jakov Sedlar.[83]"

Seems he had a few jobs.

Have you not read an employee handbook lately?

Nevermind that I live in a right to work state. The employer has it's own freedoms of association.

If that's a counterpoint you want to make, I entreat you to research it.

His life is not 'destroyed' and he does not 'have to go into hiding,' can you let me know when we are dealing with the realm of facts and not magical fantasy?

Does that number 9 include tonight's story on the BBC?

"Woman says star exposed himself to her then laughed about it on Radio 2 show"

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66882644

From The Sunday Times:

"All said they felt ready to speak only after being approached by reporters. Several said they felt compelled to do so given Brand's newfound prominence as an online wellness influencer, with millions of followers on YouTube and other sites."

How bizarre! They didn't come forward so that justice would be served or to protect other women.

They were compelled to come forward because Brand was popular and influential online (as a, ahem, "wellness influencer"—yeah, right). Or rather that's what the people who did the investigation let slip—Brand's anti-mainstream narrative stance was reaching too many people online so he had to be targeted.

He also did this.

Prophetic and utterly brilliant.

If the allegations are proven to be true and Brand is subsequently convicted, what importance do their reasons for coming forward have on any of this? Had they not come forward, would it make what may have happened to them any more or less traumatic?

It's also perfectly possible that Brand as a comedian and an actor was 'harmless' (so to speak) but since he branched out into being someone who people are paying attention to in matters beyond mere entertainment, the victims might have felt it was important for others to know just what he's really like. Brand's level of fame and reach would surely bring him into contact with much more people now and, if allegations are to be believed, it could lead to him being in situations where he could assault again.

As has been mentioned, victims have numerous different reasons for not coming forward. Focusing on their motivations for not doing so is unhelpful and a distraction. What's important is the substance and, if true, whether they can be successfully proven and Brand convicted.

It's also perfectly possible that Brand as a comedian and an actor was 'harmless' (so to speak) but since he branched out into being someone who people are paying attention to in matters beyond mere entertainment, the victims might have felt it was important for others to know just what he's really like. Brand's level of fame and reach would surely bring him into contact with much more people now and, if allegations are to be believed, it could lead to him being in situations where he could assault again

I don't think so.

He settled down and started a family in 2015, he currently spends most of his working time now making videos in a converted pub in his garden.

The idea he would be in more contact with more people now is pretty illogical.

but since he branched out into being someone who people are paying attention to in matters beyond mere entertainment

He has been doing that for years.

He was always ranting and raving about banks, the political elite, wealth distribution, Queer rights, immigration rights, etc.

He guest edited The New Statesman a decade ago.

I don't know what his videos are like but I'm sure it's the same ranting and raving with added.

Big Pharma made a fortune out of the pandemic - Well yeah, we asked Big Tobacco but they didn't have the required experience to mass produce vaccines and treatments.

The Defence Industry are profiting from the war in Ukraine, who did he expect to make and supply the weaponry of war, Fisherprice?

Michael Moore was doing similar stuff 20 years ago.

Sicko was about big pharma, Bowling for Columbine put the weaponry industry under the spotlight.

It's show business.