Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

our politicians must be the most spineless human beings we have ever had representing us... have any of them anything called a backbone...? Padraig pearse, thmoas clarke, mcdonagh etc must be wondering what they died for

Im with lakeland and they never ask. I dont claim bps or file nitrates. No issue so far

It's plainly obvious now that the dept and gov never wanted to maintain the 250. There has been no contact between dept and commission since March. The latest submission put together by the water quality committee has yet been sent to Brussels. A video call by our Minister rather than face to face is prrof that gov never wanted the positive result. The bad actors are on our side, in our own jurisdiction.

The IFA and the ICMSA have the chance now with the Ploughing match to make a scene and tell McConalogue to do one back to Donegal. The cameras will be there and an election is coming and he's played lots for fools.

He's proven he was never genuine.

the state of the country outside of the m50 is of very little concern to the green agenda.once the d4 luvvies can turn that into one massive national park then to hell with the rest.sure isn’t the corporate taxes going to stay flowing here forever.

as for our so called minister for agriculture.I said it a couple of yrs ago he was a green td hiding in plain sight.the most useless and incompetent minister since creed and he was shite.and still farmers will vote for ff and fg next time again.I’m no shinner fan and they’re no better but Jesus the old guard needs wiping out completely

That's been put forward by a tillage group this past year.

There was a researcher from galway University had a survey for tillage farmers to fill about taking slurry from dairy farmers.

It was anonymous so any blaggard could fill it out. I filled it out but tried to be as sarcastic as I could. Any enviro could fill it out too and claim to be in tillage.

The trouble is the nitrates from the slurry will leach more on the tillage ground than if applied on grassland. But the agronomists have the minister codded about ontakes and offtakes and that no leaching occurs with tillage.

why would anyone consider building extra storage in current environment

we used to export dung for straw for years. Our farm stood still for that period and didn’t improve because lack of nutrients

With 220 now confirmed and 170 very much in cards in next few years our lobby bodies really need some co joined thinking …..Dutch style action is now needed .we have a useless minister for ag and a govt cornered by the greens and an opposition just interested in getting our votes

since quotas have been abolished (correctly so )our advisory bodies have landed us here with one track one dimensional advice ….kiwi systems were sold as only show in town ……load on cows worry about slurrystorage etc in a few years was the mantra they admitted they forgot about the extra calves they should now grow a pair and admit they forgot about water quality and envirnoment until it was too late ….they have gotten away very very lightly on this

The ship isn't going to be turned re derogation it's a lost cause, a well funded reduction scheme that will take the financial sting of having to cut numbers is the last card the ifa have of securing for this years budget but its doubtful they'll even attempt this, they either make a meaningful last stand here our as a organisation their a spent force

At this stage given where milk price is at, the price of rental land and the nailed on probability derogation will be scrapped for 2026, even if the co-ops have their ear, the game is up re milk volumes going forward and trying to get a compensation package in place is the only game in town now