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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Their latest propaganda film has flopped

    (from the Guardian feed:)

    "The release of Russia’s first feature-length film about its invasion of Ukraine that premiered across the country on 17 August comes on the back of plans announced by the Russian authorities to boost the production of movies glorifying Moscow’s actions in Ukraine.

    But The Witness is a box-office flop. Set to a budget of 200 million roubles (£1.5m), it has grossed less than 14 million roubles (£110,000) in its first two weeks, with viewers across the country reporting empty cinema halls.

    In two hours of screen time, the film covers a wide spectrum of falsehoods that the Kremlin has used to justify its invasion of Ukraine. On the eve of the invasion, Vladimir Putin said Moscow had to “denazify” its neighbour, the lie that Ukraine was infiltrated by dangerous “Nazis”.

    At one point, a Ukrainian commander is seen walking around with a copy of Mein Kampf, while other Ukrainian soldiers pledge their allegiance to Adolf Hitler. As a witness to these unspeakable horrors, Cohen sets out to tell the world the “truth” about the conflict."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Putin: "That Ukraine is full of Nazis. Send in all my men. All my best men. Especially those guys named after Hitler's favourite composer for some reason."



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    But who is going to be starting the discussion?


    Ukraine are not going to say enough is enough, and let's see if we can call a ceasefire and get a line drawn here. Whilst they still have any will they will continue to keep fighting to regain their land. They have to keep fighting or they cease to exist.


    Russia are not fighting for their survival though. Once they run out of cash they might decide to talk, but then the starting point is from 2014, and from there it moves backwards with potential demilitarisation for X miles back into Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    while other Ukrainian soldiers pledge their allegiance to Adolf Hitler.

    Gilding the lily there a tad, Vlad. I wonder if the editors managed to talk him back from a scene of baby eating, the pledge as the compromise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    We have an idea of what's been going on from reports.

    But still there's an impression in the West you can't say or do anything in case it upsets a Russian.

    What we have instead of is this boil the pot of Russians.

    The whole Russian state deserves to be left in isolation for 50 years. Embassies in Europe and around the world closed down. Russian ex pats give a portion of salary to Ukrainian state and people.

    And that still would be very light. They've taken thousands of lives while they still have theirs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Polar101


    And how is Russia's grand offensive to (re)take Kupyansk going? Surely it couldn't have stalled, after all they had a hundred thousand "crack" troops and thousands of tanks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,460 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    At least the Nobel committee was guilted into coming to their senses:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Deub


    I take it that it is not going well for Russia. I find it amusing you commented almost daily at the end of July when there were reports Russia advanced 3km on the front somewhere but when Ukraine breaks through you consider this as “no significant progress whatsoever”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I'd agree with you - there needs to be severe consequences for Russian citizens abroad. And if they don't like it, back to the motherland to sort things out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    An interview with a Ukrainian general confirms what we had seen in Twitter posts: Ukraine has broken the first line of defences and is currently expanding its reach.

    However what made me intrigued was the general said Russia put the majority of its effort and severity into that first line; the 2nd and 3rd nowhere near as substantial cos Russia never expected Ukraine to breach the 1st line. If that's true then by all means, things may accelerate soon.

    Ukrainian forces have decisively breached Russia’s first defensive line near Zaporizhzhia after weeks of painstaking mine clearance, and expect faster gains as they press the weaker second line, the general leading the southern counteroffensive has said.

    Brig Gen Oleksandr Tarnavskiy estimated Russia had devoted 60% of its time and resources into building the first defensive line and only 20% each into the second and third lines because Moscow had not expected Ukrainian forces to get through.

    ....

    There were hopes for similar rapid progress in the summer counteroffensive, which aims to push down towards the Sea of Azov, cutting off Russian troops in Kherson and occupied Crimea from other forces and severing their supply lines.

    Instead, it stalled for months, with casualties mounting but frontlines apparently static, feeding discontent and criticism in western capitals that had provided weapons and training.

    Tarnavskiy shrugged off that criticism, saying he preferred to judge a job when finished and thanking the UK and other allies for their support in training and weapons, including Challenger tanks that are already in the field. “When we started the counteroffensive ... we spent more time than we expected on de-mining the territories,” he admitted. “Unfortunately, the evacuation of the wounded was difficult for us. And this also complicated our advance.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The International Olympic Committee would want to take notice and change it's tune very soon. No Russian or Belarussian athletes, no matter what flag of convenience they want to hide under.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Whats stopping the Russians putting down more mines as they retreat where the Ukrainians breakthrough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭dzer2


    The lack of them plus the time to do it also even if they have them they need to get them to where the break through happened



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭Rawr


    This is pretty much what we need to watch out for. The more Russia’s proxies push this line that negotiations must happen, the more worried the Russians themselves are. The Ukraine offensive is slow, but it creeps steadily towards a strategic height thar may trigger a domino effect if the Russians are very unfortunate.

    They must still hope that the conflict can be officially frozen so that they can at least *de facto* own a chunk of Ukraine for the foreseeable. But that hope hinges on a lack of western support. So expect more post like his in weeks to come, and if they intensify, the game might be coming to an end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    They had a year to field the 1st line with mines, tank traps and pillboxes, all relatively unmolested; this time they're having to stage retreats under fire, without losing further ground. I can't imagine Russian forces would be coordinated enough to sew enough mines as to slow Ukraine's advance that much compared with that insane 1st line. If the general is to be believed Russia banked that Ukraine would simply fail to breach that 1st line; they probably don't have a Plan B worth a damn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    They have to be stored somewhere not too far away and when Ukr gets intelligence of locations... big booms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    The small gains Ukraine have made have come at a horrific cost to them unfortunately.

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭mikewest


    And at a far more horrific cost to your beloved Ruzzians, next...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Gains are not measured in territory alone. The Russians have taken a huge hit.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,404 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Unfortunately"

    Your foolin fekin no one.

    Everyone can see through the shte yourself and Kermit are posting. Shte that was literally flagged a few days ago on this thread as points that were going to be rolled out by the Putin lovers this week.

    Post edited by breezy1985 on


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I can't see any significant change happening with western support. Whilst things could cool off support wise with a change in the White House, it would also need a simultaneous change of direction for all former eastern block countries, western Europe and NATO leadership.

    The further east you go the less likely any support for Ukraine is likely to fade due to any leadership changes in each country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,047 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The King of Sweden indicated he wouldnt be attending if Russia attended.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Because of mines large areas of Ukraine are defaulting to a wild nature reserve. Every cloud has a silver lining I guess.


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Agreed, it would take a seismic shift to completely remove support from all of the EU / NATO. But that won’t stop Russia’s supporters from doing what they can to try to frame Ukraine’s efforts failures and their goal as “impossible”. It’s the only hope they believe that they realistically have of turning the tide.

    Russia & their fans would be better served contemplating a way to withdraw as soon as they can and wrangle the least punitive deal they can in exchange for being taking back in from the cold by the West. Mucking about with a smattering of old Soviet partners and with tin-pot dictators in The Sahel isn’t going to make up for what they’ve lost. Russia’s only realistic hope is to find a way out of this war with some clothes remaining on their back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Polar101


    It's the right decision. The argument for keeping politics out of sports/science/whatnot doesn't work, when the likes of Russia will use any achievements as political propaganda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,661 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    (on the tin pot dictators) I predict it's not going to go well for African countries that look to Russia or Wagner or whatever for help with their security and tell the US/French or the UN etc. to completely clear off.

    I wonder if (eventually, over time) jihadis and assorted agents of chaos in some of these countries could be much more than Wagner/rebadged Russian mercenaries can handle - esp. given how busy Russia is right now.

    The juntas/rulers could be left with no pants swimming trunks on and the tide gone out, as another clothing related saying goes.



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭threeball


    These Ruskies couldn't even come up with an original movie plot. Must have watched all but the last 30mins of inglorious basterds before setting about their knock off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I think the empty seats could be a Russian way of silent protesting.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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