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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,576 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It appears Belarusian air defense tracked the Ukrainian drones over it's air space but the military has orders from Lukashenko not to interfere.

    Perhaps. Or with the fog of war a smear campaign to drive a wedge between him and Putin.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Or maybe they didn't have anything to shoot them down with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,576 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Now Putin killed Prigozhin because Pri's mafia controls the military food supply. 😄




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,576 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Windows are closing in Russia at the end of the month. Darth Putin may get creative.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    According to telegram, Pskov under attack again tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭storker


    In Russia when Windows crashes it takes you with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭thomil


    Gives a new meaning to "Blue Screen of Death"... 😬

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Willow Fat Neckerchief


    Good article that. I found the following interesting though:

    "The F/A-18 has some advantages over the F-16 for Ukraine's purposes. First, it is a "navalised" fighter, meaning it has a strengthened undercarriage that would allow it to land and take off from rougher airfields (and potentially roads), unlike the F-16 which requires highly maintained airfields. This would give the Ukrainian air force more flexibility and increase the chances the aircraft would survive longer in combat. In more remote locales, these jets would also be more difficult to detect when not flying."

    The bit I've put in bold is what worries me about the F-16 and deploying it to Ukraine. Does Ukraine have the air defenses to protect the F-16s when on the ground, plus the airfield's runways, when they are deployed at some stage? Because I'd say it's highly likely where ever the F-16s are based will inevitably attract Russian attacks to degrade their capability.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Report that Ukraine has troops now fully trained in using US Abrams tanks and the first ten are due to be delivered by mid September.




  • Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭ Rayden Large Varnish


    RTE rather bizarrely running a nice quirky tourism focused documentary about a motorcycle trip though Siberia shot in 2020 but seriously … it’s might as well be an ad for Visit Russia.

    I get the production team put a lot of effort in and had no idea the war was going to be a thing, but really RTE … maybe park it for a few years ?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    It's RTE, are you really surprised at this stage.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    That's just showing off at this point. Still, I'll drink to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,407 ✭✭✭✭briany


    With Ukraine now trying to breach the Surovikin line, is it safe to assume that the armour they had accumulated up to June is all now in play?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭thomil


    Honestly, I don't see the mentioned issues with the F-16 as problematic. While yes, the MiG-29, the current mainstay fighter in the Ukrainian inventory, can shut off her front air intakes and open intakes on top of the fuselage to take off from gravel strips, other aircraft in the Ukrainian inventory don't have this feature, and are equally as vulnerable to debris on the runway as the F-16. This by extension means that runways and taxiways need to be cleared of debris regardless of aircraft type.

    As for the landing gear, yes, the F/A-18 is a carrier fighter, which means its landing gear is designed to handle extremely hard landings. However, the F-16 isn't exactly a prima donna either. This aircraft has operated of highways and auxiliary airfields as well, and is operated in some pretty tough environments even today. From what I can see, a lot of these supposed issues about the sensitivity are overblown. The F-16 will require about as much care and airfield preparation when operating as the Su-27, which is already in Ukraine's inventory.

    The one thing that is a concern, as you correctly mentioned, is the vulnerability to air attacks while the jets are on the ground, as they will definitely be a priority target. However, I do believe that this can be mitigated by basing the aircraft west of Kyiv, thus putting Ukraine's biggest concentration of surface to air missiles in the path of any potential large scale missile attacks. It is also worth noting that between their pre-war inventory, Patriot, IRIS-T SLM, SAMP/T, Hawk, Avenger, NASAMS and the ability to launch Sea Sparrow missiles from their Buk launchers, Ukraine actually has more surface to air missile systems available than they did at the start of the war, while having to cover a somewhat smaller area. Also, once more, the access to NATO recon assets comes into play, because you better believe that Ukraine will hear about any bomber or missile launch as soon as NATO recon or ELINT/SIGINT assets detect it.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    We now know cheap drones have changed how wars are going to be fought for the foreseeable, it will be interesting what the US come up with in this aspect. Do they improve on the switchblade or start again or maybe come up with ways to defend against them. Probably all of the above and they have no better testing ground than Ukraine.

    Right now the Gepard might be one such defence against the Lancets and the Russians own FPV drones. I know they are doing a job protecting against the Shaheds but would some be of use at the front lines as part of the offensive? The KA-52s would probqbly be the real danger to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Imagine it will have a significant impact, particularly with its protection level. Imagine thirty M1s might have more an influence that double the number of Leopard 1s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,098 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So it was true he was the chef de maison after all...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    BAE Systems setting up properly in Ukraine; the first of many potentially?

    While Russia's military industrial complex stalls and struggles to keep pace, Ukraine's allies are embedding themselves in the country's own. "Armies win battles. Logistics win wars" remains true today as it ever did.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Amraam missiles for Ukraine - Probably for the F-16s. Can't load links this morning for some reason but it is being widely reported if you search for it.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭thomil


    Probably also for slotting into Ukraine's existing Buk SAM systems. AMRAAMs are a development of the AIM-7 Sparrow/Sea Sparrow missile family and use the same general interface port, so it should be possible to modify Buk to launch the AIM-120 as well. Ukraine has been using Sea Sparrows from their Buks, so there's some in-country experience in that regard.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Most likely this. Even if you are neutral in a conflict (and Belarus are not. They are really not neutral in this) you are still within your rights to stop a belligerent force if they enter your territory. I fully suspect the whole "Do not interfere" command from Luka is just to paper over the fact that they couldn't interfere if they wanted to (not without direct Russian support).

    The Belarussian military is puny compared to what Russia have deployed to Ukraine, and are as badly equipped, if not worse. That's why I never take any suggestion of Belarus joining the conflit too seriously. At best they might be able to add a couple of companies-worth of troops to the fight on the Russian side, but that's about it. I don't count the Wagners there, since they are a bit headless now. The only advantage Russia would get is the veneer of this being an "International" effort....at least until Putin chooses to pull the mask of this "Union State" nonsense and declare a totally 100% legit referendum to make Belarus a Republic within the Russian Federation. For all the good it would do them...



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Plus, given its likely the army are keeping in check what appears to be a fairly robust anti-Luka movement, committing troops to become fertiliser in Ukraine would have a more detrimental effect on Lukas grip on power than Putin with his army's losses.

    Though were a revolution to happen, it's debatable Putin even now has the resources to "protect democracy" or whatever bullshít excuse he'd trot out for interfering. Belarus is probably in a very precarious situation, politically - while also serving as a demonstration of what Ukraine would look like under Moscow's control (a little detail overlooked by the tankies and Both Sides Wafflers).

    Post edited by pixelburp on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Can't they also be launched from Ukraine's NASAMS? Canada donated some sidewinders a few months ago, guess that went under the radar!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    does that stand up to the fact check? the whole point of cheap drones is that air defences werent designed for the drone era whereas their air defences would have had planes like the F16 in mind.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That's what I was thinking. Bringing the was to Belarus would risk his very fragile dictatorship. Belarus is t like Russia where the loon in charge has sizable support. Luka seems fairly hated.

    Luka was all talk about getting involved for the first 3 days of the 3 day invasion but hasn't said much in the past year of the 3 day invasion.



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