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GAA Infastructure

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I think the idea of playing friendlies outside Belfast while Ravenhill is unavailable is to pretend Ulster really is a 9 county team.

    It's a pre season game or two so I would say they will opt for the cheapest but also GAA stadia are less likely to be in use at that time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I think some of the rugby people would not like a trip to windsor park. When clones gets its upgrades it will be alot better. RDS is far worse than many GAA stadiums



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    The RDS will start building a new stand next year, it'll be ready long before Clones gets a new main stand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "RDS is far worse than many GAA stadiums"

    It's in a whole other universe in terms of food, drink and corporate hospitality which fans of most sports are used to.

    I'm happy enough for the GAA to keep things low budget and therefore low ticket price but no point pretending the rugby crowd or any soccer crowd above LOI level would be happy with our stadia outside of Cork and Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I think food can be easily sorted as you have mentioned i believe in past posts mobile cattering is the way to go



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Depends on the stadium. RDS has a big showground to hold a food court which many GAA stadia don't. It also has corporate facilities around the stadium and I assume media facilities which people forget. International sports need a lot more media facilities than GAA.

    For instance you are not going to be able to ask the premium ticket holders, box owners and corporate sponsors to take a step down from what they are promised to go to Clones when Lansdowne is practically easier to access from Belfast and has all the stuff their ticket pays for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I keep forgetting about the corporate side of things which in away is nearly more important than the fans. Which is ironic for me as the only GAA games we bring clients to is Dublin due to the boxes!

    On a side note casement hit another issue as one of the PM companies involved from the UK called Buckingham Group has folded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    There is a YouTube channel called 'The Wide World of Stadiums' who recently did a video on the top 10 GAA stadiums. He usually concentrates on soccer stadiums throughout the world.


    It is a lighthearted channel but he has previously covered lower league soccer stadiums in other countries which really show where we are at with the GAA.

    I think for the most park it only highlights what we already know is that GAA stadiums for the most part are very poor as a spectator experience.

    I wish that county boards concentrated on lower capacity stadiums that have better facilities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The Guards most of being a sleep when clones moved in to the North



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Sounds like he hasn't actually been to any of these places and also has a snobbery against terraces. Suggesting that terraces of vastly different quality like Hill 16, Limerick, Thurles and Cavan is way off the mark.

    He does touch on population and amateur status though which are important parts of the conversation. For instance Cavan and Monaghan would probably not even have a seperate team in most other sports never mind 2 25k+ stadia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Good topic. I think the Stadium will go ahead, alot of momentum. The price tag is small for a country like the UK.

    Just an aside but alot of the British people I met in the West Midlands and London are not ignorant on Northern Irish affairs. Thats largely a myth peddled by Republicans . The ordinary English are well educated and recognise Northern Ireland as an integral part of the UK. There's a few that don't but I'd say 85% of the people iv come across do know it and do want it to remain part of the UK. Should be a good tournament anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    We must have been in different parts of London because in 10 years I met hardly anyone who even knew it was the same country never mind understood the situation in any detail.

    So no it's not some republican myth. It's lived experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,000 ✭✭✭✭blackwhite


    My experience in England is that there's a sizeable minority of people who don't have a whole lot on knowledge of what's happening outside of c.50 miles of where they live. It's not a blind spot about just Northern Ireland, it's a blind spot around most things outside of their immediate region.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    I'd be in fairly middle-class circles allright. They certainly knew their geography. Finchley , Muswell Hill. I'd say you'd probably be more working class up around Harlesdon and Kilburn or down around Bromley?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Peoples level of knowledgeof NI is irrelevant. Whether they see NI as an integral part of the Union or not wont matter if they see £100m+ being given to a stadium in Belfast for a sport they know/care little about while their local services are cut.

    Again, the UK government will likely string things along until the hosting rights are confirmed. They'll say the right things in the hope/expectation that NI eventually causes itself to miss the boat. Then they can pick another English stadium and blame NI for them not being part of the tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    You would probably know nothing about me and are way off the mark both geographically and demographically on the London I lived in. Never even been to Kilburn or Bromley and haven't heard of the third place.

    Exactly. England is full of good stadiums so the very English Westminster parliament will be happy enough if Casement doesn't go ahead. No one will care except a few Unionists who for the millionth time are shocked to be sold down the river by Britain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    The Unionists might be pissed if NI isn't part of the tournament but that will mean that the Casement hasn't been rebuilt (and probably never will be) so they will console themselves with that. They'll complain though that expanding Windsor Park to host games didn't happen but they'll blame the Irish government for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,404 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Would kingspan had any influence on venue choice?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Good spot. Cavan didn't seem the obvious choice but I'de say you have it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,404 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I wonder do Ulster rugby fans still bring Ulster banners to games, I know they used to because I saw one in a photo in 1999. I also remember seeing footage of a Tyrone fan flying an Ulster banner as a joke at the 2003 final. I think that was a disgrace flying a loyalist flag a short distance away from where one of the players was shot in Bloody Sunday 1920.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    The young people I used to know in north west England referred to me as Irish despite having a Northern accent. They didn't know much or care about Irish politics or history. It is probably the people who were alive during the troubles who would know more about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    This one? The Ulster rugby flag

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    Because its vastly different to the Ulster GAA flag

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Walsh park has finally reopened with the 2 main stands now finished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Any word on the Louth Stadium. The county board said they would update last month but its gone all very quiet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,186 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I've been to Twickenham Stadium and Wembley last month and been asked the question 'How do they compare with Croke Park ??'. Find it hard to compare them as the pitch for GAA is a unique sized compared to Rugby and Football

    Would AFL Stadiums be easily comparable too Croke Park/PUC etc because (to my knowledge) the pitches are of a similar size



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    AFL grounds are oval, they double up a cricket grounds in the summer.

    I've never been to one but I'd imagine they are even bigger than a GAA pitch.

    An AFL team has 18 players on the field, you need a big pitch for 36 players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,186 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The fitness level must be through the roof with a pitch that size



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Its insane I remember hearing Daniel Flynn the Kildare footballer saying when he was out there they went to Dubai for pre season training, went out to the desert for a hundred 100 metre runs.



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