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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    This is interesting (or maybe it isn’t I dunno🤪)

    The BBC publishes salaries above £178,000, which means that Ryans salary of 170k euro for his radio programme wouldn’t feature on their published list.

    So even if he got a small bit of part time work on the beeb he’d likely be making ok money - problem is he put too many of his eggs in with the RTÉ basket - had he spread his wings a bit more and a bit more regularly he could have slotted nicely into some morning or drive time slot on one of the beebs regional channels -

    I know we joke about Radio Norwich but if full time, the pay is likely higher than what he’s getting right now- a small fish in a big pond still pays the mortgage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah great post there Cluedo - excuse me if I don’t quote it, I don’t want to get sued…..but we’re all behind you 🤪



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 11,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Yeah I agree but Bryan did spread his wings. He filled in for Graham Norton a few years ago. Despite having g the Saturday morning slot of one of the major BBC presenters with an established audience for a few weeks he didn’t turn it into anything further. He had a clause in his contract to allow him with the outside broadcasters for a few weeks a year but he didn’t seem to developer that either because of lack of demand or lack of ambition/complacency. Most of us can’t afford to rest in our laurels and do have to uphill from time to time to stay competitive at west we do. I’d say Ryan took his eye off the back a long time ago and accepted the BBCs “Don’t call us, we’ll call you” and just sat back into his RTE gig believing it was shears going to be there because, in fairness, who ever got thrown it off RTE? Even Ryan was back in this time till he opened his mouth. It’s probably a good lesson allround really. RTE probably need to get more discerning. If you’re not learning and growing and becoming better then good luck. Look at Joe Duffy. There was probably a time early in when Liveline was a good show with him in charge. Now we have a guy steering a shoe into any old horeshîte to wind the clock down to his retirement as he’s unlikely to get a contract next time out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Indeed a lesson for all of us- the civil service is probably one of the few places in a lot of countries where you can reach a position of whatever level of skill you have and then coast to retirement, safe in the knowledge little will take that job away from you - RTÉ and some of its presenters have that same approach .

    Funny how our export of quality talent to the UK has dried up in recent decades -it started with Eamonn Andrews, Gay Byrne of course did his time there, Terry Wogan, Val Doonican, Henry Kelly all did well out of the BBC - since Graham Norton there hasn’t been anyone of note. Has RTÉ been too cushy a number for them?

    Duffys salary is a disgrace for the sort of rubbish he pedals on his show- an outsider looking at the “talent” that is RTÉ would just laugh.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 11,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Good question. I know RTE I’d a cushy number but capable and ambitious people don’t stay in cushy numbers however for some who are talented it’s also a source of security I suppose. It’s not always desirable to live like a shark not knowing where your next meal is coming from.

    I think there are many more outlets cut talent now. Back in the day Gay, Terry & Eamonn really just had RTE as a kick off point or you went to England out of the box. I actually think Gaybstarted in Granada before coming back here but I might be wrong. I’d imagine the opening back then weren’t very many and probably there was a lesser amount lining for them but the cresm did rise.

    Graham bypassed RTE and looked to go straight to the UK. At least I don’t remember him doing anything in RTE. He’d probably have been too controversial for them to touch at that stage.

    RTE ding develope talent. If you get a show it tell they don’t take off you should be gone but RTE seem to pick a new hire that cost them money and shoehorn them into as much as possible. You can’t get a silk purse out of a pigs ear no matter how much you wish it or try. Instead of looking for the next talent to developer they keep doubling down in the sage failed people.

    Oddly tge BBC are being personality focused lately too. There seems to be no end of shed with Ramesh Ranganathsn and Rylsn doing the rounds but at least they are talented.

    If RTE don’t push Prime properly they’ll just end up with s a stable of also rans. That’s been really evident since Stubbs quit the LLS. There really wasn’t anyone internally who could refinance him and it shine a C light in the back of talent and fresh blood in there. We’re a cosy Little Rock pool. Most of what’s winning around would die quickly in the ocean that is the UK market. I’d say there is far too much competition across the Irish Sea really. It’s great for their market but it means we get stuck with the ones who can’t compete or a care home for the ones who tried and were found out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭TokTik


    He’s only 50 though. That nest egg has to last him the next 30+ years. Unless he’s invested very wisely he’ll need another income, and soon you’d suspect. And €500,000 a year is only, only haha, €253,924 take home pay after taxes.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This was probably posted already:

    I'm sure everyone here will be on the edge of their seat waiting to hear what's next for The Toyman. 😂



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 11,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Lol! He proudly took the GB NEWS gig!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Good to see that he appears to be in reasonable form anyway - like I said before, not interested in kicking the man when he’s down- if he gets another decent gig somewhere else then good on him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Why is this on RTE news.. he was cancelled.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 11,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Agreed. I don’t like his work but it’s hard losing your job so personally I wish him the best and hope he has a soft landing and is back doing what he loves before long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He had already made the decision to step back from TLLS earlier this year - so it’s entirely possible he had other projects lined up since and if this current “crisis” hasn’t impacted that project, then it’s likely he’ll be pushing ahead with whatever this gig is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Has he? If so, good luck to him.

    Just don't ever think of coming back here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,498 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I was wondering why GB News would be in anyway interested in Tubs, many out of some distain for a former OfCom executive who is now DG in RTÉ. GB News does suit Tubs, even if as ye all think its a small time cable news channel ... it is more down to the type of coverage of politics it provides ... either to the left or right Tubs doesn't have that type of energy in him.

    He won't be Rachal Maddox on MSNBC

    He won't be Tucker Carlson on FOX.

    As for Craig Doyle.... how many times did RTÉ try to force him on Irish audiences.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    In the short term at least, RTÉ isn't the sort of place anyone should aspire to work in- there’s a lot of dead wood to be kicked out, a lot of old practices to be stopped and new processes to be introduced- if Tubridy can spread his wings a bit more which he has needed to anyway over the last number of years, he might look back at this episode as a blessing in disguise.

    He seems to be going about things the right way anyway- my gripe as with most people is with RTÉ in general- this has been a side show that got way too much emphasis considering the much bigger issues with RTÉ and the waste of tax payers funds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Very interesting stats put together by Darragh McManus in today's Indo

    Darragh McManus: Radio 1 listeners could be on cloud nine if RTÉ breaks up morning gloom with a dose of levity | Independent.ie

    (Behind a paywall)


    He goes through the hosts of that 9-10 am slot on Radio since Gay Byrne left it in 1998......

    Marian Finucane 1999-2005

    Ryan Tubridy 2005 - 2010

    John Murray 2010 - 2015

    Tubridy again from 2015

    He picks some JNLR audience numbers for each of them:

    Marian F 336,000 (2003)

    Tubridy 333,000 (2009)

    J. Murray 330,00 (2014)

    Tubridy again 334,000 (2023)

    Interesting how stable the slot is, regardless of who's presenting. The negative for Tubs in this is that the population of Ireland has increased by about a million since Marian Finucane's 2003 figure, so it's probably decline in real terms for him and Radio One.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,498 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    100% agree, but the statement from the union in the Irish Times and to the Government / political parties is

    Give us more money, lets stop talking about these payment, leave us be we've done nothing and nothing needs to change within RTÉ.

    And the "lets stop talking about Tubrity" appeals to many people, but it fails to really address anything else in the organization.

    Yes it is a side show, but there is much more to be looked into at RTÉ.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Orange-Coca-Cola


    Great post. We can live in hope. I must admit if that were to happen, or anything close to it, I would start to believe in rte, and may even start to trust that they are doing something to show us that things are changing. But that would be the minimum I would be willing to accept. Normalising Duffy's, D'Arcy's and Byrne's pay among the others would not be enough for me.

    He has done a few stints on the bbc before https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b0131yms and same https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0131yms/episodes/player

    There are some interesting comments in this link that was posted by somebody else earlier in this thread from 2015 https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2089720/no-more-ryan-tubridy-on-bbc-radio-2

    I am convinced that Bakhurst must know a few 'tricks' more than than the chocolate man when it comes to doing business. Maybe even some very old school type methods that would have been used and well-honed to almost perfection. If he Kelly starts trying to make things more difficult, as I am aware already that he is gearing up to sue, I am sure he will use everything in the book that he knows.

    I am curious though, and I am sure that somebody here will know. If, for example Ray D'Arcy is given the 9 o'clock slot, does he have to renegotiate his contract? Or could he just continue with the contact that he currently has?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah many of us have said here that regardless of who you are, you’ll still get listeners at certain times of the day- wouldn’t it be gas if RTÉ put an unknown, but a competent and interesting unknown into the 9am radio slot and their figures started to rise over time- I’d love to be at the contract negotiations then for the RTÉ dinosaurs that are claiming all of those extra listeners 😀



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 11,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Sue for what? I know he might have recourse for being blacklisted as an agent but while I’m all for standing up for yourself, there’s a time also to know when to walk away. He’s just digging a bigger hole for himself and his clients if he goes the legal route. Mind you he seems like a kind of aggressive guy and that probably has stood him in good stead to date so he won’t see the downside now I’d imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,498 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Image we are fools for posting this on boards. Wonder what happened to Tubs during the 5 years he was off Radio 1?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭TokTik


    “Breathed new life into the Late Late Show”

    Do we live in parallel universes?? Tubridy is an awful interviewer, especially considering he was mainly interviewing clowns from the RTE canteen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭TokTik


    “Breathed new life into the Late Late Show”

    Do we live in parallel universes?? Tubridy is an awful interviewer, especially considering he was mainly interviewing clowns from the RTE canteen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Tubridy’s contract at least was based around “hours worked”- so unless there’s an increase in hours I don’t think a contract renegotiation would necessarily be required as long as there’s agreement around the nature of the type of show they’d do in the first place linked to their skills or knowledge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    Used to always laugh when I saw Russell Crowe on the late late, and this bullsh*t bond Tubs spoke about them having.

    Tubs indulged the mans ego, let him play his crap music. No wonder he agreed to be a guest. I'd imagine any other reputable show only wanted Russell Crowe the actor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Tell it to me arse


    I’m surprised there has been no mention of the reiteration of RTs possible attempts to go down the legal route Vs RTE in the news recently. I would have thought a man with a bit more of an supposedly open worldview like him might hop on a plane and prove us naysayers wrong by going to the States and becoming a chat show host over there, the very thing he based his media persona on here in Ireland. No better way to prove the naysayers wrong than making it in the land of show business. 

    But he has reiterated his inclination to go down the legal route. This sums up his whole persona in one sentence as a bully. He’s bullying the public into his view by going legal. He’s also writing off his chances of ever having a career here or elsewhere. RTE won’t touch him if he goes legal with them. He is writing off the next three years if he goes legal. 

    Starting a career in the US would take time to make a break. A 60 year old presenter from Ireland making it would be a miracle story so it is unlikely to happen ever. I had hoped he would do it but he is digging his heels in the doubling down. The UK is not his cup of tea he will never lower his level of life to restart over there. He will be toxic if he goes legal in Ireland. We already know he hasn’t broken the law so what he’s hoping to get out of it I don’t know. His reputation is damaged because of his failure to read the public and he got greedy.

    He still hasn’t learned and for me it sums up the FF mindset almost perfectly. Spin your way out of every crisis, control the narrative, media and ancillary cultural organisations and control power. FF have armies of historians controlling the narrative in this country. Someone on another thread blamed the property crisis on PDs for loosening regulations on building in Ireland in the 90’s. Literally, the gall to claim this. They have every position hedged and they take both sides of every argument and are feeling they don’t control the narrative here in this situation. 

    So Ryan is throwing the toys out of the pram and going the legal route because there is an inherent need to dominate and prove yourself right. If they control the narrative they control power. Ryan hasn’t learned about being humble. It doesn’t factor or come into the equation in anything for FF people. Dominate, hedge your way out of positions by taking both sides. Overpower your opponents like many Blackrock men do and control the narrative. Tubridy needs to learn he doesn’t rule over this society or country and eat humble pie. Like the rest of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,977 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


     he has reiterated his inclination to go down the legal route.


    Where are you getting this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    It's hard to see him ever regaining the levels of renumeration he enjoyed at RTE.

    Like the man who fell into a hole full of tits and came up sucking his thumb.

    If a person doesn't have the humility within themselves to realise how lucky they are in life, then they are usually doomed to failure.

    Lack of self-awareness leaves a person crippled. Blind to opportunity, deaf to good sense and unfeeling to the sensitives of others.

    It's a Greek tragedy for him. Tubridy will struggle unless he has some sort of epiphany, a damascene conversion or whaetever you want to call it.

    Sadly, I don't think life has given him the tools he needs to succeed on his own.

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Patrick Kielty will illustrate just how dreadful Tubridy was.



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